Windows LiveFollow us on Twitter (@windowslive)
SkyDriveLike us on FacebookFollow us on Twitter (@skydrive)
HotmailLike us on FacebookFollow us on Twitter (@hotmail)
MessengerLike us on FacebookFollow us on Twitter (@messenger)
Service status
Live Connect Dev Center
Windows Live Help Center
Learn more about Windows Live
Today we’re releasing an update to Windows Live Essentials 2011 beta. One of the main reasons we release betas is to allow early adopters to enjoy our products and provide feedback on their experience. First, we want to say thank you for your help. For Messenger alone, we had over 3 million unique users, 3.5 million updates to display pictures, 6.2 million video calls, and 7.6 million updates to status messages.
Your beta feedback and usage has helped shape the many improvements we’ve made and continue to make across Messenger, Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, Writer, Mail, and Family Safety. Today I’d like to summarize some of the more visible changes you’ll see in today’s update, and we’ll follow up with more details in later posts.
We’re always working to improve the performance and quality of our services and we’ve made significant progress in this area in today’s beta update. This includes things like decreasing the time it takes to start each program or render each webpage, and improving the quality of your experiences. It often takes hundreds of small improvements and optimizations to better the final experience. Here are some of the many improvements you’ll see in this area:
In addition, we’ve been able to improve the quality of the software and have fixed over 75% of reported crashes. We’re not always able to reproduce all of the reported crashes internally, but we do look at this on an ongoing basis.
Many of you have been asking for Facebook chat, and it’s finally here. More than half of all Messenger customers also use Facebook. With the previous beta, you got a rich social view that brought together all your updates (including those from Facebook) and gave you one place to see and comment on them. With the new Facebook chat integration, you now also have one place to chat with all your friends. And if you use Facebook but don’t use Messenger today, you now have an always-on “people app” on your PC that gives you instant access and notifications as people come online in Facebook or Messenger.
From a technical perspective, this is a significant task. We’re connecting Messenger’s ~300 million customers (who are already connected to Yahoo! Messenger and Office Communicator) to Facebook’s ~500 million customers. To make sure this happens smoothly while Windows Live and Facebook both build up the needed back-end infrastructure, we’ll start by releasing this chat capability in the US, UK, France, Brazil, Germany, and Russia today. We’ll continue to expand this offering to additional regions over time.
We know some of you want to connect Facebook to Windows Live, while others prefer to keep things separate. This is a major part of our design and you get to decide when to connect Facebook, and if you do what types of activities you want to allow, including chat. You can change your preferences at any time from your profile page.
One of the benefits of the new ribbon user interface in Windows Live Essentials is the ability it gives you to preview a change before you apply it simply by hovering over the option. With the beta update today, we’ve also added preview capabilities to the “Find” tab in the ribbon. So before you apply a filter (date, rating, people tags), you can hover over one of those filters and see the results instantly.
We’ve also added back date and keyword to the tree on the left hand side. While we know many customers will use the Find ribbon to sort through their pictures, we heard loud and clear that others found the tree more useful.
With the new Snapshot feature in Movie Maker, you can select a single frame from a video as it appears in the preview window and add it to your movie. This allows you to quickly grab an image that you want to keep or perhaps use for your movie’s intro or closing.
In addition, because we know many of you use Flickr for photo sharing and have enjoyed publishing to Flickr right from Photo Gallery, we’ve extended support to Movie Maker, so that you can now publish videos directly from Movie Maker or Photo Gallery to Flickr too.
We hope you’ll download today’s update of the Windows Live Essentials 2011 beta and try out the changes. And today, in addition to English, Spanish, French, Dutch, Portuguese, Japanese, and Simplified Chinese, you can also now get the beta in Russian or German. In this post I covered just a few of the things you’ll notice when you use the new beta update. In subsequent posts we’ll go into more detail on other improvements we’ve made, as well as feedback we’ve received on the new Hotmail.
- Chris Jones
Vice President, Windows Live Engineering
YAY! THANK YOU! I love this.
will photo gallery videos be uploaded to flickr as well?
@usctrojan98 Yes, the Beta refresh includes an update to Flickr publishing that now supports videos.
Nice updates, now only if there is a proper map for the Geotag function in photogallery then windows users will have no further need for Picasa and this truly will be one hell of a competitor to iPhoto :) but as things stand now there is some distance to cover.
Facebook chat in Messenger!
I knew this was comming out!
Excellent work guys! I'm downloading it right now ;)
@ Analy: The article says from Movie Maker but I don't have anything in Movie Maker. All my short videos are actually in Photo Gallery. Will those now be uploaded to flickr from WLPG? That would be super-awesome!
The Geotag is great.
Just add more ITPC / EXIF editing capabilities to Photo Gallery.
At least what we had in Microsoft Pro Photo.
Thanks.
No news in Live Mail?
@usctrojan98 Movie Maker and Photo Gallery share the publishing capabilities so if you can publish videos in Movie Maker you can do that too in Photo Gallery =) So with the beta refresh you will be able to upload videos to Flickr from Photo Gallery or Movie Maker.
FB Chat not available in Canada? Comeeeonnnn, we're practically American! Adding CAD support is like another, what, 30 users? Backends will be finneeee :D
Awesome, Analy! Thanks! Can't wait to try it out!
Great Update,,,, less work in Windows Live Help Center sure¡¡
How about also including AIM chat in the Messenger??
Has live sync been updated too?
Just need to add AIM capability to WLM and I'd never need another IM client.
i can't install it !!!
error 8007064e
Can somebody tell me or point me to directions for connecting Messenger to Yahoo chat? ...and Office Communicator for that matter. I absolutely couldn't find this in the first Beta.
Also I can't install it!!!
Win7 x64 Ita + Office 2010 x86 Ita
Couldn't update to the latest versions
Couldn't install these programs: Sync
Error: 0x80040601
Source: LiveRemoteClient-amd64
Couldn't install these programs: Messenger
Source: PhotoCommon
Source: Messenger
Couldn't install these programs: Sync, Messenger, Photo Gallery and Movie Maker, Messenger Companion
Error: 0x80072f76
Source: WLRemoteClientLang-amd64
Help me please!
Nice, Messenger does seem snappier. At this point, the main thing I'm looking for from the Windows Live team is the ability to leverage local network storage, like Windows Home Server, to extend SkyDrive. And for those without a network storage, give users the ability to pay for more storage and increase file size limits.
Thanks for very nice and great additions to WLE and for Russian language too!
Will you make Live Sync updates more robust? Right now it takes 30 seconds from start to check my completely synced folder with 1,2Gb of data in it. And every 20 second update attempt seems to be too frequent, as for me.
I've downloaded the beta using the link in your post here (windowsteamblog.com/.../windo...) but something bizarre is going on.
I've definitely got the latest Messenger because I can chat to FB friends but WLPG looks exactly the same. There's no geotagging using Bing Maps, and I don't have the date-based treeview that is screenshotted above.
I've got build 15.4.3002.810 of WLPG
Hello Chris,
Nice !
Is the Live Messenger team planning to add an option in the near future to permit us to bring back - when runned on Windows 7 or above - the good old "Send to notification area on close" behavior we used to have in Messenger on previous Windows versions ?
Gaël
It looked like there was a new Live Sync for Mac I got an update for Live Sync for Mac, but then after I still get: " Sorry, there is a problem with Windows Live Sync. Please quit Sync, make sure your computer is connected to the Internet, and start Sync again. Quit" Live Sync is still working fine on Windows 7 systems.
Also strange is that on Windows 7 you won't see a WLE Sync beta icon under programs, only on a Mac.
Hello,
I was glad to see that the date and keeword would be added back to the tree on the left-hand side of the photo gallery because I find them really useful. But after downloading the update and restarting my computer, nothing new... So I wondered if these features were going to be added later ?
Moreover on messenger, will it be possible to always sign in with the same status ? i.e., be automatically connected as showing offline or absent, as it was possible before.
Thanks a lot !
@ericesque Click on the add button, then "Add a Friend" and then just type in the email address of a friend that uses Yahoo! Messenger or Office Communicator. They have to accept the invite (or send you one in return) and you should be all set.
can you please provide an offline setup for the beta 2?
@jamiet You've got the right build. In order to get the date-based tree view in Photo Gallery you'll need to enable it first, look for the option in the options dialog. And for the map you have to right click on an existing geotag to see the location of your photos in the map.
@Dharmesh Mehta Thanks! I guess I'm used to multi-protocol IM clients where you sign into multiple accounts. Similar to how gTalk can connect to AIM by entering your credentials. Adding a user from a different network to my contact list never entered my mind.
@steph Look for the date/tags tree options in the Options dialog. They're turned off by default.
Oh my God, beta 2 is a defective, in the end of Install. New Windows Live Beta 2 show me that internet unconnected
but I have internet, I try may time and nothing, What's going on???
Sorry error, have be: but I have internet, I try many times and nothing, What's going on???
Windows Live Photo Gallery is easily the best photo manager I have ever seen. I absolutely love the way it makes importing and tagging photos dead simple.
I also love how I can ask my wife, "When did we go to the Grand Canyon?" "March 2009, Dear", and I can click on the left-hand date tree and be back there.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for adding the date tree and tag list back in. They are the two must-have features that no one else seems to have thought to add to their photo managers, I literally use them every time I work with my photo library, and now I don't have to rant and rave blindly about how they were taken out.
Still, I've got a couple of questions:
1. Is there any plan to implement selecting/unselecting multiple files using ctrl or alt in the "Photo/Video" Import Wizard. Having to manually click on 300 of 500 photos in a set to make sure they don't get imported is a huge pain. I'd love to see the ability to click and drag or use the keyboard to select or deselect a bunch of files all at once, which, ironically, is what makes managing the photos so great once they're imported.
2. Are there any plans to allow more flexibility in what WLPG does with originals when edits are performed?
At home I use network storage so my wife and I can access our pictures from any computer. Since WLPG only stores originals in a "hidden" folder when edits or changes are made, I am extremely hesitant to ever edit pictures, since the originals aren't stored in the actual location of the Picture Library.
In my opinion, this is a strange omission in what is easily the best tool I have ever seen for organizing a Photo Library.
I wouldn't even mind originals being stored in a hidden folder in the original picture directory, but something so I don't lose my originals when I upgrade computers (for example) .
3. Good work on a great product. I would gladly pay money for this.
I have the same problem like adam1762 . The installer reaches the end and it displays the "No internet connection" message. I tried it on my other pc and the same problem occured. How can I fix this ?
Great news
- is there an offline installer available for this beta refresh yet?
Yes there is. It's posted on liveside.net. By the way... The offline installer gives "no internet connection" error too, so it could be a bug. ( windows 7 x64, fresh install )
I have a problem with "no connection" at the end of the installation. Windows 7 Pro, Czech Republic
For anyone with installation issues, Windows Live Install logs are under C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\WLSetup\Logs (hidden folder). These are often helpful for troubleshooting.
@adam1762, Capli and László Halász... what OS language are you using? More details about what error you're seeing?
Hungarian Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - > I installed the english language pack and set it to default, but the problem still exist. I checked the log and it seems like it wants to download the hungarian localized version but it can't find it so it stops the installer with no connection or something like that, but in some freekish way it say everything is installed : /
@ericesque - The way Facebook and Yahoo chat work in Messenger are different. For Facebook, you "add Facebook to Windows Live" and all your contacts appear and you can chat with them (assuming you are in a supported market, and have enabled the chat option). For Yahoo, you simply invite your @yahoo.com friends one by one like you would a friends on windows live. When your Y! friends accept, they will show up in the contacts list and you can IM them.
@gcovain - No, we are not planning on adding that option, but feedback welcome on this.
@steph - We are working on making it easy again to always sing in as "appearing offline" before we ship.
@James Elder There are my logs: cid-984741af0367fe5b.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?resid=984741AF0367FE5B!346&Bpub=SDX.Docs&Bsrc=GetSharingLink
I have Windows 7 Pro Czech. My installation ends with "no connection" error. I hope, that you guys will fix it.
Logs again: cid-984741af0367fe5b.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?resid=984741AF0367FE5B!346&Bpub=SDX.Docs&Bsrc=GetSharingLink
or http://bit.ly/aQ8YQw
How's that the connection with Twitter is no longer available?
When I went to edit my settings with Facebook discovered it.
By the way, is nice to see a "Descriptive tags" treeview again in Photo Gallery.
Installation of photo gallery and movie maker errored out. I tried on my standard user and admin account. Failed on both. When clicked the "help" it gave me options to look out for. None of them apply. When I look at the logs , this is what i found.
TaskThread :00000930 (08/18/2010 07:58:59.934) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'PhotoGallery' because of dependency failure
TaskThread :00000930 (08/18/2010 07:58:59.934) TaskThread(0EB29628): Incrementing task completed counter for 'RemoveParentTasksFromList', Task(0E7DB948) PackageInstallTask PhotoGallery
TaskThread :00000930 (08/18/2010 07:58:59.934) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'MovieMaker' because of dependency failure
Any similar issues?
So Messenger, Mail and Movie Maker, will sit among the actual start menu programs now, while Writer and Sync are in a folder named "Windows Live accessories" after this update?
OK. Since there is no edit button for the comments, I am posting the link to the error I was mentioning in the comment earlier.
cid-001d90b202d72a3f.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=play&resid=1D90B202D72A3F!4853&Bpub=SDX.Photos&Bsrc=GetSharingLink
@Jagannath Sorry you had a failed install experience. The PhotoGallery and MovieMaker packages failed in your scenario due to a dependency failure (as you noted). The dependency that actually failed should also be referenced in your log. Would you mind also posting this info? (searching for "!Error" is a quick way to find specific failures). Thank you.
Is there a full installer somewhere? I am getting the "connection lost" messages (at around 99%) as I was getting them with most of the previous versions (Don't know why, my connection is working perfectly). Or should I even care? Is the facebook chat feature working outside USA, concretely Czech Republic?
Thank you in advance for your help.
MH
@adam1762 , Capli, László Halász and Miroslav Havlíček
The problem you're running into is that the Windows Live Installer not only installs the language you selected, but also tries to install the Windows Live language resources that match your OS language (this avoids language switching problems later when using Windows Live client applications). Unfortunately, the Windows Live Beta Refresh only ships in nine languages (much more coming for the final release) and when the installer tries to find these additional language resources, they are unavailable and hence the error you are seeing. This erorr will occur in both the online web-version (wlsetup-web.exe) and the off-line version (wlsetup-all.exe).
This will not be a problem in the final release as all languages will be available, but we're investigating workarounds such as temporarily changing your OS language settings and will post info here once a workaround has been confirmed to be effective.
I love what you're doing, but the one thing that I REALLY, REALLY miss is the flexiblility of adding my own buttons to the Bing Bar! Why even have Windows Live Gallery anymore if you can't import their creations to Bing Bar and Messenger?
@James Elder , I am in office now and don't have access to the logs on my home PC. I would go home and post the log. But, that would take some 10 hrs from now. Is there anyother way to post the problem ? May be after 10 hours the comments in this blog might be unnoticed . :-)
will customize display name available in the update?
i wanna customize my display name rather than using my real name in live profile.
I was expecting the layout from the leaked build, that had tabs for contacts group, it was so good with that, very organized. Would be great to at least have an option to have the tabs.
An image with the tabs.
www.msgstuff.com/.../wlm-2010-m2-contact-list-classic.jpg
There should be an option to allow us users to use other xmpp servers than just facebook's xmpp server, I could then use messenger's new xmpp code to chat with people on IRC/AIM/Yahoo/GTalk/Google Wave/ICQ and others all via messenger because other servers like jabber.org and talkr.im offer service tunnels...
using messenger to talk via 7+ networks for the price of coding xmpp support for facebook would be a killer, thats priceless.
In Messenger, is there a direct way to send a video message to someone that is offline? For some reason I thought Live Video Messages was being rolled into Messenger or Live Mail.
Anyone know if Messenger still doesn't have display name support? While I do like all these features being added (especially Facebook chat) there are plenty of people in my WLM contact list that know me by my display name. Shouldn't I be able to keep that?
ARGH!!! Common MS - how do you expect us to use you software/services if you keep maiking it harder? I have a Polish Win 7 Ultimate and trying to install the EN version and also get a "no internet connection" error (SOURCE=Exe, CODE=0x80040691 SetupUX reported fatal error (0x80040691)).
Now I can't use messenger, live mail or sync because the old beta installer is gone and now I have to wait for you fix which souldn't be nescessary at all :/
Same problem installing as others here. I find it strange that the previous beta worked and this one does not. I´m using swedish windows 7 pro.
@Piero Sierra - For some of us messaging clients are not primary tools, and they have not their place in the taskbar until a message comes in.
While working I accept incoming messages but rarely starts a conversation by myself.
For the moment, on Windows 7 machines, I start WLM in Vista SP2 compatibility mode but I will be better to get an opt-in option to restore the old behavior (I'm definitely not saying it should be the default one).
Hi can you fix installation problem?
Now I can't use Messenger and Live Sync!!!!!!!!
@Drazick - the Geotag functionality is not "great" - it is extremely limited and too error-prone (because of errors in Microsoft's data). As Weiqi says, we need a proper map interface for geotagging.
However, it is very good to see that the date and tag views have been restored to the Navigation pane...
@James Elder I don't understand. You make an announcement on your blog which is read WORLDWIDE that an update to Wave 4 beta 1 is available. Then in a comment to a a blogpost you tell us that if your operating system is not of the right language, the installer will fail and leave the user with NOTHING since for some reason it manages to remove the beta 1 in spite of "wrong" langauge. If I worked at the largest software company in the world that distributes software to the whole world I would make damn sure that when software is announced and put out for download it will work on any language, no ifs and buts. I chose to install beta 1 in english, and it worked. I chose to update that beta, and because of some whim of the developers of the installer I am now without Live alltogether and have to go back to Wave 3. If you want to try and install the correct language then fine. If he langauage is not available, then install english or ask the user what to do. But no, you give us "No internet connection" which obviously is geek speek for "go away, you don't speek the right language, we will take away anything we have given you and don't bother". This has got to be a the world's most obnoxious installer ever.
Ah, Drazick, I see I owe you an apology - there is now an interface with Bing Maps. It's a bit clunky though, I would have preferred it to be within WLPG itself, rather than being spawned out to IE...
Hmm, not only is the interface with Bing Maps a bit clunky, but it seems only to work in one direction; that is, placing an image on Bing Maps does not appear to write back the GPS location back into the Exif of the image. I probably need to play with this a bit more, but so far this beta has not quite delivered on the geotagging functionality that I'm looking for...
Sad to say, but this version is worse than the previous one...not only I'm not able to log in messenger (I get the 80040154 error) like in the previous beta, but now even Live Writer is not starting anymore (it crashes right after the startup without any error log or similar). I can live without messenger, but I need Writer for my blogging activities. can we have separate installs for the different apps again?
I can't believe ! Microsoft, what is this ??? Many peoples that needs Meesenger is now without it ! This is very bad !
Connection lost during install ? Ooooh...
I´m sorry but I have to say this. What the **** were you guys thinking releasing this crap without a warning that it would **** up existing working installations. When visiting my local windows live page to download the swedish version of wave 3 an ad for the beta is displayed and sure enough it doesn´t state anything about language dependencies. I find this extremely reckless...
For all that have the 'No internet connection' error at the end of the setup, here's the trick I used to have it working (my setup failed when WLW wanted to download a language pack or similar).
when the setup gives you the error, just cancel it,
then go to: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache
here's where the downloaded msi modules for windows live will be placed.
just launch each and everyone on them manually again.
I was able to setup WLW working using this method.
I'm still not able to log in MSN Messenger.
@guardian when my installation failed with ''No internet connection' message, if I go in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache it is empty... :-(
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have some control over the facebook contacts that are imported? I really want to connect facebook to Live but I cannot without this control, as it will pull in hundreds of contacts which i dont want (most of which dont have any contact details anyhow) and now with Hotmail ActiveSync these will all flood into my iPhone which I dont want at all! - We need to be able to choose which contacts (if any) we want to pull from Facebook when the link is made.
PLEASE !
its unbelievable but after testing the new Sync (as part of this Beta refresh) the bug still exists whereby if sync is used on a Domain PC (Win 7 in my case) and the remote access is enabled, the domain user account constantly gets locked out. This was reported by many after the initial release so why hasnt this been fixed? Still cannot use Sync on my Office PC.
I have a Polish Windows Vista +SP2 and problem with Windows Live Connect internet
@James Elder, Here is the log information .
!ERROR! :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10) SOURCE=PackageInstallTask, CODE=0x80040705 Failed to install package 'D3DX9'
InstallManager :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.447) entered Unadvise()
Bucketizer :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.447) Tracking potentially fatal error from source=[PackageInstallTask], package=[D3DX9], hr=0x80040705
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.507) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0539E8F0) PackageInstallTask D3DX9
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.507) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'PhotoGallery' because of dependency failure
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.507) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'RemoveParentTasksFromList', Task(0539EB30) PackageInstallTask PhotoGallery
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.507) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'MovieMaker' because of dependency failure
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.507) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'RemoveParentTasksFromList', Task(0539EBF0) PackageInstallTask MovieMaker
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.557) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'PhotoGalleryLang' because of dependency failure
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.557) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'RemoveParentTasksFromList', Task(0539ECB0) PackageInstallTask PhotoGalleryLang
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.557) Removing task 'PackageInstallTask' for package 'MovieMakerLang' because of dependency failure
TaskThread :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.557) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'RemoveParentTasksFromList', Task(0539ED70) PackageInstallTask MovieMakerLang
Task :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.557) Task(0539E8F0) completed result=0x80040705
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.587) TaskThread(025B8988): ExecuteSerialTask() starting Task(0539E9B0) PackageInstallTask D3DX10_42
!ERROR! :00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10) SOURCE=Task, CODE=0x80040705 Task(0539E8F0) finished with an error
PackageInstallT:00000548 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.587) ETW: TraceInstallState_End Install - Direct3D 9
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.587) Queued a serial task = 0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.587) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
Task :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.627) Task(0539E9B0) started
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.627) ETW: TraceInstallState_Start Install - Direct3D 10 August 2009
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.627) Installing package 'D3DX10_42'-'neutral'
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.627) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 4
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.627) entered Advise()
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.707) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.707) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.707) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=18, Left=5, Pending=5
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.717) Queued a parallel task = 0x1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.717) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.757) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 4
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.757) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.757) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.757) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=18, Left=5, Pending=5
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.847) Installing EXE package 'D3DX10_42'
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.917) entered Queue()
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.917) queuing transaction 025D0D08
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:10.917) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.917) entered GetTransactionList()
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.917) executing transactions...
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.967) executing transaction 025D0D08
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.967) Entered Install.
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:10.967) executing: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache\9cfdbe891cb317905\DXSETUP.exe "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache\9cfdbe891cb317905\DXSETUP.exe" /silent
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:11.037) Leaving Install, hr=0x80040705, status=ExecutionFailed, process exit code=-9
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.237) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.617) Installation of EXE package 'D3DX10_42' returned: 0x80040705
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.617) Finished installing 'D3DX10_42' result=0x80040705
!ERROR! :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11) SOURCE=PackageInstallTask, CODE=0x80040705 Failed to install package 'D3DX10_42'
InstallManager :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.617) entered Unadvise()
Bucketizer :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.617) Tracking potentially fatal error from source=[PackageInstallTask], package=[D3DX10_42], hr=0x80040705
TaskThread :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.737) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0539E9B0) PackageInstallTask D3DX10_42
Task :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.737) Task(0539E9B0) completed result=0x80040705
!ERROR! :00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11) SOURCE=Task, CODE=0x80040705 Task(0539E9B0) finished with an error
PackageInstallT:00000A4C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.737) ETW: TraceInstallState_End Install - Direct3D 10 August 2009
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.737) TaskThread(025B8988): ExecuteSerialTask() starting Task(0539EA70) PackageInstallTask MeshBetaRemover
Task :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:11.837) Task(0539EA70) started
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.837) Queued a serial task = 0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.837) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.837) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 3
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.837) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.877) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.877) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=19, Left=4, Pending=4
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:11.877) ETW: TraceInstallState_Start Install - PT.ProductName
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:11.877) Installing package 'MeshBetaRemover'-'neutral'
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:11.877) entered Advise()
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.967) Queued a parallel task = 0x1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.967) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.967) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 3
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.967) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:11.967) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:12.007) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=19, Left=4, Pending=4
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.017) Installing EXE package 'MeshBetaRemover'
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.027) entered Queue()
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.027) queuing transaction 025D0D80
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.027) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.117) entered GetTransactionList()
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.117) executing transactions...
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.117) executing transaction 025D0D80
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.117) Entered Install.
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:12.117) executing: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache\f0e3ab841cb3e6305\MeshBetaRemover.exe "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache\f0e3ab841cb3e6305\MeshBetaRemover.exe"
EXEEngine :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.387) Leaving Install, hr=0x00000000, status=ExecutionSucceeded, process exit code=0
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.587) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.587) Installation of EXE package 'MeshBetaRemover' returned: 0x00000000
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.587) Finished installing 'MeshBetaRemover' result=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.587) entered Unadvise()
TaskThread :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.677) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0539EA70) PackageInstallTask MeshBetaRemover
Task :00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.677) Task(0539EA70) completed result=0x0
PackageInstallT:00000700 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.677) ETW: TraceInstallState_End Install - PT.ProductName
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.677) TaskThread(025B8988): ExecuteSerialTask() starting Task(0567CD88) MsiTransactionTask
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.677) Queued a serial task = 0x0
Task :00000128 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.707) Task(0567CD88) started
InstallManager :00000128 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.707) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000128 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.707) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.707) Beginning MSI Transaction...
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.707) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.787) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 2
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.787) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.787) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.787) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=20, Left=3, Pending=3
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.797) Queued a parallel task = 0x1
TaskThread :00000128 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.887) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0567CD88) MsiTransactionTask
Task :00000128 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.887) Task(0567CD88) completed result=0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.887) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.897) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 2
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.897) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.937) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: no
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.937) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=21, Left=2, Pending=2
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:14.937) TaskThread(025B8988): ExecuteSerialTask() starting Task(0567CCF8) MsiTransactionCommitTask
Task :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.937) Task(0567CCF8) started
UX :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:14.937) Disabling Cancel UI
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.007) Queued a serial task = 0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.007) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.007) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.007) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.007) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
InstallManager :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:15.067) entered Confirm(Blocking)
InstallManager :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:15.067) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:15.067) InstallManager(02563690): waiting for confirm or abort to complete...
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.067) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=21, Left=2, Pending=2
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.067) Queued a parallel task = 0x1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.107) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.107) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.107) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.107) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:15.107) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=21, Left=2, Pending=2
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:25.757) Beginning MSI Transaction (id=1) result=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:25.757) confirming transactions...
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:25.957) Ending MSI Transaction (Committing, id=1)...
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.057) Ending MSI Transaction (id=1) result=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.067) confirming transaction 025D0C18
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.257) confirming transaction 025D0D80
InstallManager :00000F40 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.257) transactions confirmed.
InstallManager :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.257) InstallManager(02563690): confirm or abort completed
InstallManager :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.257) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
TaskThread :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.257) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0567CCF8) MsiTransactionCommitTask
Task :00000724 (08/18/2010 20:23:26.327) Task(0567CCF8) completed result=0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.327) TaskThread(025B8988): ExecuteSerialTask() starting Task(0567CC68) RemoveAllUninstalledCachedPackagesTask
Task :000003CC (08/18/2010 20:23:26.327) Task(0567CC68) started
UX :000003CC (08/18/2010 20:23:26.327) Disabling Cancel UI
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.327) Queued a serial task = 0x0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.387) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.387) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.387) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.387) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: yes
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.387) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=22, Left=1, Pending=1
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.457) Queued a parallel task = 0x1
TaskThread :000003CC (08/18/2010 20:23:26.457) TaskThread(025B8988): Incrementing task completed counter for 'OnTaskComplete', Task(0567CC68) RemoveAllUninstalledCachedPackagesTask
Task :000003CC (08/18/2010 20:23:26.457) Task(0567CC68) completed result=0x0
Engine :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.457) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.457) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.507) TaskThread(025B8988): All tasks have been completed
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.507) TaskThread(025B8988): Exited main loop, hrOverallResult=0x00000001
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.507) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.507) TaskThread(025B8988): PendingSerial : 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.507) TaskThread(025B8988): RunningParallel: 0
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.537) TaskThread(025B8988): Running Serial?: no
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.537) TaskThread(025B8988): Tasks Total=23, Completed=23, Left=0, Pending=0
UX :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.537) Engine finished result=0x0
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.547) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.547) InstallManager(02563690): waiting for confirm or abort to complete...
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.597) InstallManager(02563690): confirm or abort completed
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.597) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.597) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.867) Overall result = 0x80040691
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.867) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.867) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.917) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.917) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
SecureCache :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:26.917) ConfirmCatalog(): Not keeping catalog, deleting cached copy 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Windows Live\.cache\wlc9455.tmp'
Downloader :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.067) Manager object is destroyed.
TaskThread :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.067) ETW: TraceInstallEngineState_End
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.107) InstallManager(02563690): destroying...
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.107) entered WaitUntilQueueIsIdle()
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.107) leaving WaitUntilQueueIsIdle(), hr=0x00000000
InstallManager :00000F3C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.107) InstallManager(02563690): destroyed
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.607) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.687) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.707) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.707) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
FinishPanel :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:27.707) ETW: TraceUIEvent_Hide summary
SummaryPanel :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:36.767) ETW: TraceUIEvent_ButtonClicked summary::close
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:36.897) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.517) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
SummaryPanel :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.517) Failure: Removing non-cached catalog at SetupSummaryPanel::OnButtonClicked()...
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.517) Overall result = 0x80040691
WLSetup :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.557) Entered SetupWizard::OnFinish()
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.557) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.557) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
Logger :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.857) Found log upload host: 84.95.27.2
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.857) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.887) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
WLSetup :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.887) External Log upload Disabled (pEngine=0x000C2FB0, OverallResult=0x054F0370, UILevel=-2147219823, LogLevel=0)
SQM :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.887) Warning: Failed to parse the version string "current" (hr=0x80070057).
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.997) Overall result = 0x80040691
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.997) Extended Overall result = 0x80040691
SummaryPanel :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:37.997) ETW: TraceUIEvent_Hide summary
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.047) InstallEngine(054F0370): explicitly removing 1 InstallEngine parameter(s) left.
AppRestarter :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.047) AppRestarter(052DF348): calling RmEndSession(), RM session [1fbce85a152929438deb49a06f1539db]
Engine :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.047) InstallEngine(054F0370): destroyed
CATALOG :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.047) LogLanguageRegKeys() 'InstalledLanguages'='en;'
CATALOG :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.047) LogLanguageRegKeys() 'SuiteLanguage'='en'
CATALOG :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.087) LogLanguageRegKeys() 'UserLanguage'='en'
Exe :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38.087) Exiting instance=0x000C0000
!ERROR! :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:38) SOURCE=Exe, CODE=0x80040691 SetupUX reported fatal error (0x80040691)
SQM :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:48.229) Warning: Failed waiting for the SQM session data upload (hr=0x80070109).
Logger :00000C9C (08/18/2010 20:23:48.399) Logger Shutdown (collection=Yes; upload=Yes; InternalLogUpload=Yes; maxcabsize=300 Kb)
@JohnCz - Yes! You can send a video message to any Live contact at any time, whether they are online or offline, provided you have a webcam. Simply right-click any contact and select "Send a video message." They will receive a link to the message (which is technically stored in your SkyDrive) via e-mail, and also via the chat window when they next sign into Messenger.
This is frustrating!!!
Before I installed the latest beta, I had Live Mail, Writer, Messenger, and Sync installed on my Win 7 64-bit Enterprise. After I installed the latest beta, I noticed that Start menu changed. A "Windows Live Accessories" was added to the Start menu and Live Snyc and Writer are under the menu. The old "Windows Live" is still in Start menu, but it is empty. So where are my Live Mail and Messenger shortcuts go??? I have to use Search for Programs to launch Windows Live Mail or Messenger, and I don't like this way!
Can someone explain this to me?
Thanks,
Jeffrey
And it's still there... You still can't have a separate display name...
Is it really that hard to have the option to either use a display name or your name as it is on your profile?
The "refresh" didn't seem to do much of anything for Live Sync, the only product of these that I use. It's still a terrible product compared to what Mesh used to be. It's slower, buggier, and has less features... At least integrate it with Skydrive, instead of the fake Skydrive in Windows Live Devices.
Please add options for disable photo sharing when pasting image url or paste an image file
And the usual American arrogance is back. There is a world outside the US, you know, and we do actually - God forbid it - speak different languages. And this American arrogance of only taking English into account is frustrating. Giving a No internet connection error is unacceptable. Just don't download the language files if they are not there. The person responsible for this piece of s*** installer needs to be fired. You just don't release software that only works in a particular OS language. You ought to release a fixed installer immediately along with an apology to the many, many millions of people who don't speak English!
@arknu Please, don't forget that this is still beta. Although my language is "the other" too, so i completely understand you. Really bad job, Windows Live Team! I hope that fix will come soon! Public beta of your product is deserve more :(
@guardian
Thanks for the tip. I've found the installer for Mail and successfully installed it that way. Just too bad Microsoft can't provide proper installer and I had to use workaround.
I downloaded this one and it finally installed!!! :) g.live.com/.../wlsetup-webd.exe
I was actually going to re-install a beta 1 since the beta 2 screwed my beta 1 installation but to my surprise it installed the new beta refresh without any internet connection error at the end :)
Thanks Piero Sierra. I'm happy to hear that Messenger supports sending video messages to contacts who are either on/off line. I made sure that my webcam is recognized and configured in Messenger but I do not see the "send video message" menu item when I right click a contact. Is there something I or my contact may need to do to enable this? Thanks again.
Why I don't se the option to turn on facebook chat in my profile?
What is the best way to submit feedback/bugs? I looked for a connect beta program but did not see one.
There is a issue with the live mail application where it still separates live/hotmail contacts from facebook contacts (shows them as 2 separate contacts) where the live/hotmail service merges them properly. Would be nice if the live mail would merge them as well.
When attempting to install WL Essentials, I get the following error: "Couldn't update to the latest versions" 0x80040601 Source wllogin-i386. I am running Vista 32bit
@Jagannath, @jagowar, @jmoliver - If you are having problems or want to submit an issue, the best place to do so is through http://windowslivehelp.com/. Many answers are already up there, and if you don't find what you need, please post a new issue. Thanks.
It worked when I downloaded via this link: g.live.com/.../wlsetup-webd.exe from owziee's comment.
But why have you changed, so that you can't choose to only view one webcam at a time? In the older versions, you could do that, now if you both have a webcam you can only have a webcam conversation. I think that should be changed back.
great news!
Thank you very much for the update, great to see you responding to feedback. the date taken and descriptive tags lists in the left pane were key features that I am really happy to see back. I will echo what some others have said in the hope of it changing, the geotagging needs improvement. Really need to be able to select the location from a map within photo gallery, and it needs to update the lat/long data in the exif info, along with the descriptive geotag. Seems strange that changes to the geotag will not update the exif info (picasa does.) This is a big selling feature in iphoto and picasa and the only feature missing here. For me, once this feature is complete this app will be perfect. And being able to view photos by selecting pins on a map is a really nice way to see where you have been. Really hoping to see this, I don't bother with geotagging as I am waiting for proper support.
Thanks again for the great updates! And everyone should keep in mind this is a beta, there are going to be issues, you have a choice regarding whether to install or not.
@adam1762 , Capli, László Halász, Miroslav Havlíček, wisnia, Wurlitzer, sp1der, Fredrik72, arknu
A fix for the "no internet connection" error you encountered has been released. Please retry and reply if you continue to see errors in your installation experience.
Root cause is that we added functionality to the Windows Live Installer to also install language resources matching the Windows OS language and mistakenly included references to languages that are not available until the final Windows Live release. Users installing on an OS language other than one of the nine languages released for Windows Live would have encountered this failure (English is just another language and not a unique cause of this error).
We apologize for the negative experience and inconvenience and appreciate you using Windows Live and for providing feedback. From this, we are updating our release tools to detect and avoid this problem in the future and investigating changing our error messages to be more helpful.
Is there going to be a Twitter integration with Messenger like there is with Facebook? That would be great!
One weird issue I've encountered with this new beta refresh, is when I click to edit contact information from the 2011 live messenger, it opens up their information on the hotmail contacts website in firefox, but I get signed into web messenger as well. If I continue editing contact information for different contacts on the 2011 live messenger, I can get signed in 3 locations, (From my pc(*****-PC), from mail.live.com, and Messenger on the Web). When I continue editing different contacts, i continue to get logged into mail.live.com, adding another area that I'm logged into. According to 2011 Live Messenger, I'm current logged into 5 locations.
Also, I witnessed first-hand how editing a contact and adding their live hotmail info to the Windows Live ID section of their information, can have devastating effects. Apparently, one of my contacts has a Hotmail email address, but doesn't update their live space info. They have a facebook account, and keep it updated. My hotmail contacts page had all of their facebook information pulled into their contact info. But when I put their hotmail address in as their windows live id, the live space page that they don't update overrode all their other information from facebook and everything. I had to remove the live id I put in, before their info reappeared from facebook. Scared the crap outta me. I'll see if I can reproduce this issue with another contact and understand it better.
@James Elder Thank you for the fixed installer and for fixing the issue so quickly. It now works perfectly on my English UItimate Windows 7 with Swedish language pack. The new installer per se is actually better and faster than the old one, now that it works regardless of language. I think people especially in a lot of European countries think, me included, Microsoft is ignoring us. In Finland and Sweden we have some ancient Bing engine without any of the new bing features. I have yet to find even one business listing in Finland or Sweden on Bing Maps. Web Hotmail has restrictions so that some new features only are avaiable in the US. Wanting a new windows Phone 7 but without proper language support and a crippled bing maps I am having second thoughts. Microsoft have side offices in the Nordic countries but it seems they are useless and doing nothing of relevance for the end user. Yet, Microsoft must be selling millions of software licenses here.
Good work! Thanks for noticing that in the first beta of Windows Live Photo Gallery once you rated a photo, its rating wasn't visible until you went back to the full list.
Surprised that Geotag seems to work on and off and even more suprised to find out that Bora Bora, French Polynesia, isn't coming up as a valid location. I just returned and uploaded my photographs and cannot geo-tag them -- just an error on my side? Also, as Weiqi noted below, a map would be a welcome addition so we can go "i-what?"
Finally, face recognition HAS improved, but more work is probably needed -- I would expect it to be more proactive going through all my photographs and asking me to validate faces. Instead, it seems to have focused on a group of them (i have more than 60,000) and once it's exhausted that group, it waits for me to navigate the folders and go one by one to be asked to identify the faces.
Not a big fan of chatting, but seems like that FB functionality is getting lotsa thumbs up.
Update looks good, but why did you have to remove the History option from the right-click menu of contacts in Messenger? It was very handy to be able to quickly get to the conversation history of a contact without having to open an IM window just to find its History option. Can you add this back on if I'm using the History features? :/
Thank you for the fix :) The beta refresh is great ! Good work !
Just downloaded, and love the photo gallery and new movie maker with video uploads... can wait for additional features...
The web pages for sync and livewriter seem to be down (and others?) I was growing very dependent on LiveMesh, and am now trying to get sync up to replace it, but no luck yet...
What about the Stationery in the windows live mail - it's fault, please more information aobout it.
thx for the fix on the "no internet connection"-problem, it works lika a charm now! :D
what are you thinking microsoft team?
i really really really disappoint for the display name...
it is a very bad idea to disable customize display name
it is also a very damx thing to show the full name in wlm,,,
if you wanna follow facebook "blindly" at least let user to choose not to show surname ...
i know you guy will not reply us
but i really want you re-consider about the display name again.
i may not upgrade or even change my instant messenger client if customize display name still not available.
i guess many of the users will not too.
thanks
I ask again, what about with the Stationery themes in Windows LIve Mail - it's fault, please give me back stationery to Windows Live Mail, please answer me why haven't this one?
**** IMPORTANT to the dev team! ****
=============================
I have only ONE request and it's something extremly simple and important to me and many other users... it's for (Windows Live Photo Gallery).
- Let us choose the background color instead of forcing it to a horrible white that ruins the contrast and creates a lot of eye fatigue. I do a lot of "professional shooting" with my Canon T1i camera and the only reason I'm staying on Photo Gallery 2008 instead of 2009 is because of the black background. Not only it reduce by 100x my eye fatigue but it doesn't make the picture's color appear as wrong when they're not. Just do a quick comparison of a complex picture on a white background then black and you'll see right away what I mean. So just let us choose our own custom background color PLEASE !
Is there any support for adding .mov support to Movie Maker? My video camera creates .mov by default and support in Movie Maker would be great!
It would be nice if the geo tags could be also be displayed in the tree view like the other "tags". MS Expression Media had a similar function which was very s useful. Also, I believe an integrated mapping function would be better that simply opening a browser window.
chris,
I am sorry to say that but the new live messenger has been a total dissapointment to me since the first public beta is released. First off, why would I need to edit my name online instead of keeping the way it was? I, personally, and a lot of other people I believe, like to use nicknames in their MSN. This new way of editing names is somehow forcing me to use real names only (given it provided me a "First name" and "Last name" box). Even if I can use nicknames by ignoring those boxes, do you really think it's a more convenient way to do so? I don't think so.
The "Social" feature is another highlight for the new messenger and again it's dissapointing. Do you really think people would use the messenger instead of web browsers to connect to Facebook? The full view of the new messenger uses up most of my screen space (my screen resolution is 1440x900) and yet it's far too basic. Why don't I just open up a tab in the browser and enjoy my "full" facebook experience? Messenger is not a massive all-in-one social hub. Messenger is messenger, nothing more. The new messenger is beccoming a bloatware!
Please, Chris, accept my advise. Don't let messenger become an annoying bloatware.
scuba811, Movie Maker does support .mov files, if you're having trouble getting it to work, you should post the steps that you follow to add the files, as well as the type of camera here: windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx
How come my old HTML signature in Windows Live Mail became plain text after installed the update?
The Windows Live Sync works a lot better now; but could you remove the feature that puts the background black on while remote accesing a computer. I have to go to Personalize and switch the themes in order to get my background back on the desktop.
Glad to see the "Date Taken and Tags" on the tree of Photo Gallery again, I was going crazy without them.
So far I'm liking the improvements to the apps. Specially having calendar next to email messages in Mail. However, I could have sworn I could just drag and drop files (pics) into new email messages. Was this not always the case? I just can stand going through dialog boxes just to attach an image to an email.
Congrats on the beta refresh release. Windows Live's never looked so good. Question: Is audio/video chat in the latest Windows Live Essentials 2011 release compatible with Messenger for Mac 8 (the beta released in March?) I was wondering whether I should advise those in the family with Macs (I was once a Mac, reborn a PC, and now others need to take that journey) to go to the Messenger for Mac 8 beta to video chat with me (if it does work)... or I should have them wait (because it doesn't.)
So far, it's been amazing
woa ! that's awesome, can't wait till it hits the rest of the countries !!
New features are nice. But what about the ability to block contacts in Messenger?
The block feature seems to have disappeared completely from Messenger 2011. With the first beta build I assumed it was some kind of bug or still being worked on. But now much later with the beta refresh it is still not possible to block people in any way at all. What am I supposed to do when someone annoys me on Messenger? Run away from the computer screaming?
Some people are saying "appear offline" is the new block. But this isn't true, appearing offline to someone only makes it impossible to send messages to someone, but you will still receive messages from these people. This seems rather pointless, why would someone want to receive messages without any possibility to reply back?
Back to the original point of the lacking block function: What do I do when I am busy talking to someone and someone else is annoying me. Even deleting the person from my contact list doesn't seem to work: twitter.com/.../21679080287
MSN and later Live Messenger have always had a block function. Any other instant messaging application I know of has a block function, or in some cases an ignore function. It seems completely crazy to release an IM app without a block button.
Hi, updated to the last beta today and now i don't have shortcuts in start menu, im using windows 7 pro.
any help?
I want to use the new movie maker to capture video from my web cam. I dont see that Movie Maker does that.
Am I wrong, there are no links to click on a program that is part of the beta, and get the features.
Am i missing something?
Also for my sony video camera that has usb hookup can i directly download video clips using movie maker?
contact themes not loading, only blue windows and the option its checked to show contacts themes... anybody has this problem to???
where is the handwriting ability in this latest beta? It is still missing? WHY? this was the one unique feature to windows live messenger.
also display names :(? why remove them?
when will active sync be enabled ?
show contact's theme not working!! please someone help me i only see blue windows and cant see the theme of my contact... please someone give me an answer. thanks in advance :D
I have this error there is not Internet connection or Error 0x80070057 I managed to fixed it following these steps captaindebugger.wordpress.com/0x80070057
I want my old messenger name back! And my concats personal names, not mname from profile. it sucks!
It would be nice to have the ability to edit our current Messenger status instead of having to type it out again to make an edit to it. If you need an example of what I'm talking about, try changing your current status in the current non-beta version of Messenger.
I have been using the beta and it's great.
When people from Windows Team are commenting here they should have different avatar...otherwise we are forced to read every single comment to find out the officicial response from windows...yeah so what if pretty woman work there
@amedrano - The shortcuts to the programs you are looking for should be at the "root" of your start menu. Previously, we had these under a "Windows Live" sub folder but we have moved the main applications to the top to better fit in with the rest of the Windows built-in programs.
@JohnCz
To leave an off line video message you have to options:
1) double left-clic on the offline contact to leave an off-line message, then you will see the "video message" option
2) right clic on the offline contact and clic "Send video message".
@amedrano
Every time you install an updated BETA it will remove your shortcuts from your taskbar (and probably from other locations aas well); at least it did to me. You have to go find them again and put them where you want them to be.
@naverous
I really wonder how are you drag&dropping your photos. In my W7 build at least when doing that WLM automatically creates a photo-album. If you want to turn those into regular attachments instead of using SkyDrive simply clic on the "clip" icon of the ribbon, and you'll get it.
@ Microsoft Guys (congrats on the Beta2 release, great improvement)
- Bug repport : Connection to send large albums (30 or 50 pics) as albums through skydrive seems to be pretty tricky, and fails most of the time. The bad thing is that it creates one incomplete album after another until it manages to send the whole thing, so you have a pretty big mess to clean up afterwards. Would be nice if the client managed some kind of "resume" feature, or if it created temporary albums before ensuring that everything is up there. Of course, it would be even better if the sending process never failed but...
- Feature request : I'd love to get the possibility to add a "favorite folders" group on WLPG, on top or under the folders view; just like in W7/VISTA explorer, but exclusive to WLPG and for photos only.
@ all
I'm truly amazed about all the ranting concerning this BETA. I guess that's what happens when you open the BETA process to the big public. For once, you are told not to install a BETA software on your main computer, and if possible to try it in something like a virtual machine, to ensure that nothing bad happens to your much precious data and beloved pre-existing software.
If I was working at Microsoft I would have already gave up on you, but I guess they make too much money with us to be sincere and tell us how pitiful we look. "Customer is always right", isn't it? Com'on guys, those Microsoft guys are just human beings, and I bet most work harder than any of us to begin with. Keep it constructive and stop using big words that help noone.
Can we have the ability to clear your status within messenger? You status should also be cleared if you clear it from within Facebook.
I managed to to play around with the beta refresh build and the face recognition has much improved! Very nice! Tagging faces can be somewhat addictive :) It would be useful to have a view mode in which all of the faces tagged can be reviewed, possibly in the batch people tagging mode. This way users could review the people tags and correct any tagging errors which sometime occur when batch tagging them.
@danielgr Regarding your bug report are you seeing the album failures when you upload to SkyDrive from Windows Live Photo Gallery or when creating a photomail from Windows Live Mail?
@ Analy,
It's always when sending a photo e-mail; photo gallery has never failed me so far.
This problem was already there in the previous beta, it simply hasn't been solved so far.
This time I got 8 albums created with anything from 1 to 48 photos until the final successful trial (fortunately WLM keeps on trying without me telling it to do so).
I've also noticed your chances of success improve drastically if you choose to send smaller pics (1600px or 600px). I was sending 2400px ones of about 2MB per file.
PS: Already said before that I preferred the old school photo e-mail that allowed you to send real personalized thumbnails and include the comments on the e-mail, but I guess I may not be among the majority...
- Feature request :
It would be great if you could make the "Download all" link on WLM photo albums available to people without a windows live account. Specially in Europe, there are many "anti-microsoft" people that would never consider opening a Windows Live account. Yet many of those happen to be friends of people like me, and it's a pity they cannot enjoy the photo-mail options. Is even worse because that always ends up with the typical : "that's what happen because you use Microsoft products". It would be much better if that featured remained as open as the "view slide show" one, and if anything, it could help other people discovering Microsoft services. After all, I'm sending an e-mail (not exactly sharing an album on skydrive) and people expect to be able to download attachments from an e-mail.
Firstly, I totally agree with @danielgr feature request that "download all" option should be made available to all, not just those with a Live ID. This would definitely be an off-put in its current state for people whom I'm emailing photos to, who would insist that I use an alternate solution instead - please fix!
Secondly, a huge well done on creating such a high quality update to WL Essentials but now for a whole bunch of other feature requests that I feel are most definitely important to make the cut for the final release of Wave 4 Essentials! A lot of these are always based around the already brilliant Facebook integration included throughout the Essentials suite :)
- Facebook like buttons in Messenger! This is a must, must, MUST! From the first beta I have found this to be a glaring omission in Messenger's social view! I'm constantly forced to return to facebook.com in my browser just to "like" a status update, link, video or photo post or photo album. This MUST BE ADDED to everywhere where it is needed by final release (including within the brilliant new photo previewer window for individual photos in an album). This can be done in other 3rd party apps for Facebook, like Seesmic Desktop and Tweetdeck, so there's no excuse not to have it!
- It's great that you can see friends updates in the social feed across different networks like Facebook and Myspace (and I hear a little birdie tell me that Linkedin will be included in this soon too) but it would be also great if the status updates of ONLINE FACEBOOK CONTACTS in Messenger would show under their profile name within the contacts list and within a conversation, as they do for Windows Live online contacts that have a status update.
- Facebook chat integration is awesome but still needs a bit of work it seems to iron out bugs and refine toasts. The main bug I am finding is that contacts appear to go offline in the middle of conversations. However, they can still be seen online on facebook.com and further more, they still see me online and wonder what I am waiting for to respond to their messages. If this is a built-in time out feature it needs to be removed or given the option to be switched off - please fix. Also, now that more people are frequently coming online, my toast notifications are crazy! There needs to be an option in settings to switch off toasts for Facebook contacts coming online. I know there is a workaround by adding some people to favourites and then switching off all other online notifications, but this isn't the solution. Please fix.
- Talking of chat integration, these are both long-shots but now that you already have Facebook and Yahoo chat integrated, wouldn't it be cool to also have G-Talk and maybe even Skype chat/call integration too? Would it? Just a little maybe??? They both have open APIs so you guys should definitely capitalise on this one and turn your IM into the first Windows "Super IM"... If not Skype, maybe cut a deal with Fring to provide the first desktop solution for their brilliant mobile service? I have a lot of friends who don't use WL Messenger who I keep in touch with frequently through those other services and I'm sure I'm not alone here, so it would be extremely useful to add these IMs into the mix too, making Messenger an even more relevant desktop tool in 2010 (not 2013 with Wave 5 :P) Just a thought ;-)
- Updating my status across multiple services from one place in the form of Messenger is really cool and akin to a service like ping.fm :) As I already mentioned, I've heard on the grapevine that Linkedin is probably coming soon, so I'll expect that feature to extend to this network too. However, it would also be great to have Twitter status update integration and maybe even G-Talk status thrown into the mix too? I know you guys at Microsoft are big fans of Twitter already (I follow at least 15 official feeds!) so surely this is a must for you too? Also, there's some times when I don't want to post the same status update to every network, so there definitely needs to be an easy way to check box which social networks you wish to post your updates to, including a "post to all" option. Finally, add a 140 character counter in the status box whilst typing an update... for obvious reasons! ;-)
- Finally, there's a great and easy way of quickly browsing and sharing photos and albums from your online locations like Skydrive and Facebook within a Messenger conversation. However, there's currently no good way of browsing your online albums on the desktop from within WL Photo Gallery. This is a huge oversight that needs to be looked into and added as a feature for the final release. Take a page out of your own Windows Phone 7 hymn sheet and integrate online albums from Skydrive, Facebook, Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, etc as local, browsable folders within your Windows 7 Pictures library as if they are offline files, even if this only shows up within Photo Gallery and not Windows Explorer. This would really provide something unique that other desktop services currently don't offer and make browsing and downloading photos from these collections a breeze without ever needing to open the web browser again. Also, with the mention of those other services above, it seems in Messenger that currently you can only share online photos from Facebook and Skydrive so this definitely needs to be expanded to the other popular services mentioned, especially as you already have plugins for uploading photos and videos to such places as Flickr and Youtube!
Add all the above (and please do as your existing customers will love you more for it and you'll have far more new customers aching for it when they see this attention to detail) and I think you'll have a near-perfect set of desktop products that will rival many other alternative services that separately provide some of these features already! :)
A few suggestions:
1. CATEGORIES LAYOUT
As already said by Dante003, I don't like the classic layout of categories: the "new" one shown in this leaked screenshot http://bit.ly/alTGjD of a previous internal build it's far better if you have many contacts;
2. FACEBOOK FRIEND LISTS
Windows Live Messenger should import also Facebook "Friend Lists", in order to choose wich list appear online to, as you can do on Facebook.com (please read blog.facebook.com/blog.php );
3. FACEBOOK PAGES
Facebook Pages should be removed from contact list;
4. FACEBOOK "LIKE" BUTTON
It's VERY important, as littledictator said, that you add "Like" button in the "Social View";
5. TABBED CHAT
You should improve tabbed conversations, in particular implement a docking/undocking feature like in Google Chrome;
6. FACEBOOK CHAT
Make the option to turn on Facebook chat more visible;
7. OLD FEATURES
Please, add back handwriting ability and display names!
Thank you for your hard work!
Big sign in problems with windows live essentials. once you sign in to any of the windows live programs and ask to remember your password you stay signed in FOREVER. And I mean forever, even if you go to your inbox and change your password, that doesn't change anything, once you launch messenger it automatically signs you in somehow same goes for Photo Gallery. I don't know how it gets ur new password. This is Really Scary something has to be done and FAST
What's worst is that when you launch Photo Gallery and remember it automatically signs you in once you've signed in before and signed out, if you click view my profile it takes you in to Windows live directly even if you signed out in the previous session. Scary stuff
I just figured out that you'll have to restart your computer or maybe log out of Windows and log back in before the windows live essential programs realize that you changed your password. Still a problem and needs to be addressed.
The new Photo Gallery:
what I do not like:
- search box must be very visible!!! not hidden
- where didi the left filters go?
- I do not think the Office styled menus are good; they are very very confusing and is not easy to find something
- how to add more filters at once? (ie. keyword AND rating AND person)
what i like:
- geotag (can I import a gps track?)
- linked web sites are finally updated...
I'm not sure where bug reports can be posted, so I sure hope that someone from the WL Essentials team is reading this blog, or that the bug report gets reposted to the appropriate place.
In Photo Gallery - I clicked on Batch People Tagging; no suggestions were available, so I proceeded to manual tagging. When I select multiple pictures by clicking on the checkboxes that are located in the top left corner, click on "Tag as", add the tag - once all of this is done, a selection is still active for the picture that came right after the last one I had selected (this one is not the same person). This is really annoying and can result in wrong tags.
Also, using CTRL+Click to select multiple pictures doesn't appear to be working - I then tag them, and while some pictures disappear from the thumbnails, others are kept there (maybe it's just one that disappears, not sure on this).
Just installed the alter refresh.
Messenger - I really hate the starting dialog giving me a choice between adding social media or a horrible news site, when I want neither. I thought I was doing something wrong.as I couldn't see a way to skip both.
Messenger didn't carry over my old contact display settings.
Live Writer - I usually like the Ribbon in apps, but it is not as useful in Writer as the old sidebar. For instance, resizing pictures now requires so much more work calling up modal drop-downs, when before I could jump click around pictures and just see the dimensions update in the sidebar. This is really a big step backwards.as I have to keep going back to the ribbon everytime to reclick to see the sizes. This slows down creating my picture intensive posts quite considerably.
You still haven't gotten rid of all the ampersand display problems with blog titles. It's ridiculous seeing this turned into space+underscore still e.g. in the publishing splash-dialog. You really need to get developers who know how to isolate these strings and protect them from being improperly escaped EVERYWHERE in the code.
Resizing and moving a Bing map in a blog post is really disconcerting. It's quite tricky and because the context sidebar keeps appearing and disappearing (why does it get a sidebar and not ribbon?) as I click on it to resize and around it to adjust whitespace and line breaks. I can't even type in linear dimensions for the map area!
Also annoyed that categories are now sorted with capitalised tags first. - I thought I'd lost a whole lot of tags!
There is less incentive to use the feedback pages for individual products because there is a 1000 character limit (and the edit box provides no character count).
Why not provide feedback links from the beta software instead of making people hunt around the net through various dead team blog links? I spent 10 years at Microsoft and find this inability of the company to join the dots completely frustrating.
PHOTO GALLERY - It couldn't find a filter for the CR2 image time, so it unhelpfully sent me to a Canon webpage for Windows Vista!!!
We’re really sorry but the page you’re looking for could not be found.
It could be that the page has moved, or if you typed the address directly into your browser you might want to check the URL for errors. Alternatively, try again using the menus or the search box above.
Thanks for visiting Canon.
@hotmouse : I don't understand your messenger gripe, is it the "social view" which you don't like? If so, you can go to compact using the icon on the top right side of the MSG box. I don't get any strange dialog when starting messenger (not after the first launch after install).
@ camilio :
- Left filters (tags and date) can be brought back through the options menu
- Agree on the text search (should be permanent)
- You can set multipole filters by simply selecting them sucessively on the ribbon (tag, search, rating, people, etc.) Each time you apply a filter you'll get an indication on top of your photos, which allows you to individually remove or add more filters at wish (love this feature; love the ribbon after taking a bit of time with it).
@Ugosan: In messenger you can undock tabs by right clicking on them.
@littledictator : would love to see your requested feature of being able to browse skydrie galleries from WLPG.
@danielgr it would be a great convenience to have this but really hope it is limited to skydrive and as I mentioned, taking a page out Windows Phone 7's book and adding folders from all connected services such as flickr, picasa, facebook, etc - like a desktop version of the "Pictures Hub" on the phone side!
This would also show some real consistency for once across all of Microsoft's product line ;-)
@danielgr yeah, but I wrote "like in Google Chrome", it's far far different ;)
@danielgr
The ribbon is very frustrating becose it is so confusing...
I would love to combine filters clicking on the faceted results on the right (like in the Google search results).
By now every click on the right pane replace the currently selected filter.
And provide also a "Clear filters" link like in the old Photo Gallery.
@ camilio
You know, you can keep on waiting for the software to be exactly as you want (obviating the fact that it's going to be used by millions of people around the globe which may not totally agree with your needs/tastes), or simply learn to use it.
I told you, you can select as many simultaneous filters as you want, and clear them individually as you want. It is really simple (although may not be of your taste). Go to the "Find" ribbon, and start clicking around. You can add date, rating, tags, people, text searches, everything that shows on that ribbon menu, and you'll see how they keep on coming just under the ribbon. Wanna remove one? Simply pass your mouse over it and clic on the cross.
ok, for me is not very clear, for me usability at its best is coming today from the web design, just try to not reinvent the wheel, it must be intuitive.
just put very big the fulltext search box.
I have a few suggestions (all for Messenger):
1. Seperate display pictures. As in have 1 pic for your profile and another for Messenger
2. Bring back Display Names! I hate having to use my real name.
3. Allow multiple instances. I have many Live accounts and I liked having more than 1 Messenger opened at once.
4. Speed up the process of opening a new convo window with tabbed chat enabled. Takes a few seconds for me.
5. Shrink the ad window in social view, if possible. It does take up quite abit of room
That's all I can think of for now. Number 2 is a big must in my opinion!
I appologise for the double comment but I have noticed a bug with Messenger and Windows 7 (64-bit). The thumbnail preview window that popups when you hover over the Messenger icon in the taskbar is/are not updating. I am aware that they don't update if an application is minimized but Messenger is maximized at the time.
Just my 2 bits there!
@danielgr:: When I first installed I got this screen-sized dialog with only two options: set it up for social media, or set it up for nineMSN. I didn't want either, so I tried the lesser of two evils, being nine MSN, which filled my page with rubbish suited for someone a third my age, and then I located compact view, and slowly recreated all the settings that I had in MSN Messenger before the "upgrade".
I'm now getting a bunch of emails from the Windows Live Marketing Team, which are also targeted at teenagers. You can't turn it off without turning off more important communications from Microsoft. ( Ditto the emails from Microsoft Office telling me to upgrade my beta to RTM Office 2010, which I already have installed and registered. ) It's weird, Microsoft collects all this information about my age and computing experience etc for my profile, and then just treats everyone like 13 year olds. Absolutely no sense of targetted advertising or communication.
MESSENGER - really upset that the Handwriting support had been removed. Microsoft puts another dagger into tablet computing.
LIVE WRITER: For some reason now displays my Blogger titles in Georgia 8.4 text when in Edit mode.
MESSENGER: Poor visual feedback for blocked contacts - reduced contrast on their icons is insufficient.
PHOTO FUSION: Is there a 64-bit version of this as there is for ICE? I'm getting out of memory errors when trying to fuse two 15MB photos, when I have 8GB of RAM, and only using 3GB.
[Window Title]
Photo Fuse
[Main Instruction]
Photo Gallery is running low on memory
[Content]
Restart Photo Gallery and try again. If the problem persists, try using fewer photos in your Photo Fuse or resize the photos down to a smaller resolution.
[Close]
LIVE WRITER: If you insert a Bing map, it always displays the legend in miles, completely ignoring my system settings for metric. SInce it creates a static map image for the blog, this representation is not viewer dependant.
Can't insert a Bing map with a route, only a map with really really ugly pushpins.
My problem: remote connections between XP Pro and Windows 7. Live Mesh used to do this, now it doesn't work on 7 and is being discontinued, and the new Live Sync Beta doesn't support XP. Am I screwed? I need to continue with XP on certain machines for specific hardware support reasons.
-Nice move with the nicknames, but i think the handwriting feature was ok, i like graphic design, and it was cool to share a quick idea with it, so i hope we may have it as a downloadable feature as least.
This is a beta version people!!! I cannot believe some of the over reactive whining I am reading in this comment section. From, “WHAT ARE YOU THINKING MICROSOFT?” to, “I CANNOT BELIEVE I HAVE A DOWNLOAD ERROR!” are the types of comments I am referring to.
For those of you unaware of what a beta version of software is allow me to explain. It is part of the program development life cycle that allows a few privileged users to work with specific software so bugs can be found, and corrected, before commercial production commences and the software is released to the public. The final version of software from any company is usually sold at a set retail or commercial price. Most of the time beta version testers are a handful of nonpublic people who are lucky enough to get a head start on what is being developed in the computer world. Microsoft is kind enough to let the public test their upcoming software which is both generous and an outstanding marketing idea. Your participation is completely voluntary. So, if you do not like working alongside a few bugs in your software I suggest staying away from beta programs.
The whole point is that Windows Live Essentials Beta, and many other Microsoft programs in the beta stage, is available to more than a few insiders, it is free, and sometimes Microsoft allows the people who participated in the beta step of the program development life cycle to keep the beta version, obtain the retail version free of charge, or purchase the retail version at a discounted rate.
Please be more considerate when posting to windows team members about your free software you volunteered to use. Patience would be nice too. No more whining either!
Keep up the good work Microsoft!
Thank You,
A College Student (and father of four)!
(Disclaimer: I am not employed by, nor am I an affiliate of Microsoft. Microsoft does not necessarily agree with, nor condone my preceding thoughts and comments. This post was written on my own accord.)
I have 3 annoyances and one "future" suggestion:
Annoyance 1
Why did you remove the quick edit and picture info tools in the viewer mode? It is very important to me to be able to edit photos on-the-run (as i view them) in other folders than those in my picture library without getting these folders added automatically to my WLPG folder list! This is very annoying. Every time i want to edit a single unrelated picture, i have to to click on "Edit, organize or share", wait a while until WLPG gallary loads (i have a huge library!), the "unwanted" folder where the picture is gets added to my folder list automatically, then i have to double click the picture again to get it open it, then click fine-tune to start editing. At the end, remove the unwanted folder from WLPG. Thats a very long way!
Annoyance 2
I think the way WLPG handles videos is not really well-done. IMO, 2 basic functions are missing: volume control, full screen mode (without having to switch to slideshow). The difference between a simple full-screen mode and the slideshow mode, is that i could still go back and forth in the video (while showing it to somebody, eg the video is too long and i want to jump fast to interesting parts). The same for pictures: in slide show i can't zoom in or out to show interesting details in a certain picture.
Annoyance 3
Slideshow modes are really awesome. But whats really missing is a simple mode (no effects!)
Annoyance 4
why is not possible to remove the Videos library from WLPG? Why is that not optional?
"Future" suggestion:
Why don't you merge WLPG and movie maker into one single product, so that we can have easy video editing from within WLPG, and easy photo editing in Movie Maker? I wouldn't even mind if Windows Media Player fused in too --- the best of all worlds :)
So, I'm big in graphical arts, and I must say I absolutely love the beta. The animations are fluid, the graphics and crisp, clean, and beautiful. But honestly, why did the team remove handwriting? Almost every single person I know used it, be it because that had a tablet PC or because they liked to draw on it (like I did). I can't help but feel that I've downgraded features in a manner. It worked well, I see absolutely no point in removing it. It really is a blow to tablet users, it was great in functionality.
So my only request is that you all re-add its functionality in the public release, I really do miss it, as do all of my friends.
I have not been able to use the new messenger. I am currently trying the beta however the experience has not been what I expected :( For some reason it keeps signing out after 20 secs. Before I was using Live Messenger 2009 without any kind of issues. I have tried a couple of suggestions from the blog without any luck. I believe this is some sort of bug with the beta version since it was not happening with 2009 version.
HOTMAIL: About half of all the alerts I get through Microsoft's forums are caught by the Hotmail spam filter (and it's been like this for years). Since I have to sign into those forums with the same profile as my Hotmail account, surely there must be a way of recognising that these are valid communications.
This might partially explain why so many people never return to their forum posts - unless they've bookmarked them, they may never see alerts for answers.
MESSENGER PROFILES - There are definitely privacy issues which people may not be aware of. I idly tracked through an acquaintance's friend list, and thence to friends of friends. At that point I saw the original acquaintance listed again, but with an unflattering comment/nickname right next to it. Definitely a problem seeing that private comments are exposed like this!!
I have enormous concerns about privacy on here. It is so hard for me to tell who can see what related to my profile - it's a couple of orders more difficult than with Facebook to control all of this.
I thought I'd hidden my friends list, but I'm really not clear. If I look at one of my friend's profile and "what I share with him", he supposedly has the right to see my friends. But if I click on that link to my friends in my profile, it takes me to my Hotmail Inbox,. WTF?????
There is also no way for me to see what my profile looks like from the POV of a friend, or friend of friend, or random person. Hasn't Microsoft learnt anything from the Facebook experience?
All the privacy defaults seem to have been set to Everyone, which seems to go against all common sense for privacy and security esp with respect to the "principle of least privilege".
Everything's awesome but I just miss the nicknames, what's up with that? A lot of people in fansites say they aren't updating because of that. I strongly suggest you bring nicknames back, because either way I didn't enter my real name on my profile.
Actually I did it before but since I can't change my nickname I changed my name.
@danielgr Regarding the bug on photomail, thanks for raising the issue. The team will look into it.
Please, PLEASE, bring back the custom display name option!
I really liked the new version but the fact that you won't let me type in a custom display name made me roll back to the older version.
Why remove something that lets the user personalize his WLM? And, no, going to the live profile and changing it there is not a good option. Please restore that feature... at least make it an option. I know not everyone wants to see nicknames on their contact list but you shouldn't be forcing everyone like that.
Handwriting would be nice too. I at least make use of it quite often.
@camillo777
You can easily get to the search at any time with the shortcut Ctrl+F. Just use it and you can start typing to search. You also have the option to add it (as any other ribbon button) into the Quick Access Toolbar to have it always closeby in the Window title.
With the latest beta you have the option to bring the left tree for dates and tags, just turn on the option under Options.
If you keep adding filters you'll get what you're looking for since it will look for photos that have all the conditions you put (ie keyword AND rating of 3 or above AND person)
Unfortunately importing a gps track to do geotagging is not supported but we'll look into that for future versions.
Glad to see you're liking geotagging.
@GuilhermePSantos
The team is definitely keeping an eye on your comments. Feel free to submit any bugs into our forums (windowslivehelp.com)
Regarding your comments about batch people tagging it seems that what you're experiencing is that you're confirming some faces and new ones come right afterwards. The face recognition system is always running, learining and trying to find suggestions to make so that might bee what you're seeing.
Crtl+click or Shift+click should be working correctly on the batch people tag mode.
If you're still facing issues let us know.
good to see that now I can talk to facebook friends via Windows Live Messenger interface. :)
Naaaah, don't be fooled by this!!! this version kinda sucks! if you sign in as "appear offline" and you wanna chat to someone, you cant, you gotta change it to "online", what the hell? and another thing, it cant verify messenger plus !! :(.
i hate it!
I was really really hoping the new Windows Live Mail would have the feature of adding tables to emails, like Outlook. I often have to compose emails containing tabular data, so to achieve this I first have to open MS Word 2007, create a table with my data in it, to all the cell coloring and font styles, and then copy & paste it inside my email.
Obviously Live Mail supports richtext, so why can't MS allow "Insert Table" feature in Live Mail ?
Also one more feature I would want Live Mail to introduce.. I've got three email accounts configured in Live Mail. In which two have the "same" email address, only their network settings differ. Meaning, one email account is configured to work on my office's intranet, it has different set of IPs and SSL settings. Whereas the same email address can be accessed through internet with a different set of IPs. So I've added two email accounts for same email address because of this difference.
Now when composing new email, there is a combobox that says "From: " and lists all the available email accounts on Live Mail. Here's the problem.. it lists the email addresses, whereas IMO it should list the names of the email accounts. Since two of my accounts have same email addresses, i cannot differentiate which is the intranet account and which is internet. If Live Mail could show account names instead of email addresses, I could differentiate between the two.
Great :-/ I had to change the password for my account on facebook and now I can't use FB chat. But before changing password it worked. It's really stupid! I'm from Czech Republic.
Live Gallery:
- send mail also with web mail accounts (GMail, YMail, Hotmail etc) than with the current default application.
- add geotag should be done also with a map (I did not find for example "Monument Valley", "Lake Powell", "Bryce Canyon", "Grand Canyon", etc).
Is this a good place to leave comments about Windows Live Photo Gallery? I have used the new beta for many hours (I have tagged persons like crasy!) and have found some things that I would like the team to know about. Is this the place for that then? Or is there some kind of beta program or something that I can join?
Hi. The smartfilter in the new Messenger is blocking links from our intranet (sharepoint). I have dissabled the Smartfilter in IE8 but still it won't show the side when clicking and intranet url from an Messenger window. Error it gives me is "There is a problem with the link. It seems to be something wrong with the link you are trying to open. Parts of the link may have been modified or content is invalid."
If i copy the url then it works fine and we have always been able to do this before.
The urls look like this: http://intranet/teknik/Lists/Fel%20Rappotering/DispForm.aspx?ID=1728&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fintranet%2Fteknik%2FLists%2FFel%2520Rappotering%2FAllItems%2Easpx
I'm guessing that it''s something with the address that the Smartfiler / Messenger don't like because it don't have the extension .com (or .se or whatever) and therefore can't check it and then blocks it somehow.
Any idea what to do?
Hi again.
I just saw thet it's the Sharepoint that gives a kind ocf double address ( http://intranet/teknik/Lists/Fel%20Rappotering/DispForm.aspx?ID=1807&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fintranet%2Fteknik%2FLists%2FFel%2520Rappotering%2FAllItems%2Easpx ) and if I delete the 2Source=http%3A%2F%2Fintranet%2Fteknik%2FLists%2FFel%2520Rappotering%2FAllItems%2Easpx" that it adds after the url then everything is working fine.
Still there is something in the new Messenger that is diffrent from the version before because the urls are working fine in that version.
Hi, I love Photo Gallery, the options to read and geotag photos is great however one major thing is missing that iPhoto has, a built in map to view my entire collection of geotagged photos on the map at once. Once you add this feature it will be much popular I'm sure.
this looks amazing! so far no glitches. everything' fine. EXCEPT! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DIPLAY NAME AND PERSONAL MESSAGES! please put it back! i dont want people looking at my full the the whole time! haha.
over all, FANTASTIC PRODUCT! (:
Hi,
I've tried latest WLM beta, I can't wait to use it but sadly it seems that none of the developers/testers have seriously tried using it with a large number (say 50-100) of mail folders. Both Outlook & Outlook Express can deal with large number of folders fine, but WLM is pretty much hopeless in that respect. I think that copying, or restoring (since WLM is based on OE, AFAIK?) the 2 features described below from OE would go a long way to improve this:
1/ When copying or moving a folder, I can't use the keyboard to enter the first few letters of the folder to jump the selection to it. Using the mouse (or the cursor keys) to navigate the folder list is extremely slow, and of course the larger the number of folder the worst it is. Both Outlook and Outlook Express do this correctly, could you please put that feature back in?
Actually, possibly even better would be something like the Nostalgy Thunderbird extension, that is autocomplete (like the bing search box) your folder list, see:
alain.frisch.fr/soft_mozilla.html
2/ When an entire account (as opposed to a single folder) is focused in the folders pane, there should be (just like there is in OE) a list of the folders from that account shown in the message page, so that I can "control click" individual folders, then right click and set the synchronization settings to headers/all messages/new messages only. Could you please add that back in? Only way to do this at the moment with WLM is do individually right click on each folder, which is fine when you have a couple but not time consuming when you have many.
I have 3 co-workers that have the same usability problem with WLM, and we are all stuck using Outlook Express in XP Mode until this is fixed. We're so desperate for #1 that we've even tried hacking the control using a DLL hook, but because they are non-standard we haven't had much luck. Please help us and add this to WLM 4/2011 so we can use it... thank you very much in advance :)
Regards,
Xavier