I thought I would spend a minute giving you an update on where we are. First, yes, we are working on a new version of Windows. As you likely know, it's called Windows 7.We are always looking for new ways to deliver great experiences for our customers. This is especially true of Windows - where we're constantly examining trends in hardware, software and services to ensure that we continue to drive the innovation that has both made Windows the world's most popular operating system and has provided a foundation on which our partners built great products and businesses. When we shipped Windows 2000, we were already working on Windows XP and we started working on Windows Vista even before we released Windows XP. So naturally, we've been thinking about the investments we made in Windows Vista and how we can build on these for the next version of Windows.
What is a little different today is when and how we are talking about the next version of Windows. So, why the change in approach? We know that when we talk about our plans for the next release of Windows, people take action. As a result, we can significantly impact our partners and our customers if we broadly share information that later changes. With Windows 7, we're trying to more carefully plan how we share information with our customers and partners. This means sharing the right level of information at the right time depending on the needs of the audience. For instance, several months ago we began privately sharing our preliminary plans for Windows 7 with software and hardware partners who build on the Windows platform. This gave them an opportunity to give us feedback and gave us the opportunity to incorporate their input into our plans. As the product becomes more complete, we will have the opportunity to share our plans more broadly. Steven Sinofsky, Windows and Windows Live Engineering SVP, talks more about this in his interview with CNET's Ina Fried, published today: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9951638-56.html.
We know that this is a change in our approach, but we are confident that it will help us not only to build even better products, but also to be more predictable in the delivery of our products. We also know that this change has led to some confusion, so we would like to share information today that will hopefully clear up some of this.
Before we talk about what's ahead, we should take a look at where we are today with Windows Vista. From a quality perspective, both Windows Vista SP1 and the ecosystem have delivered measurable progress in the six dimensions of quality we track -- device compatibility, application compatibility, reliability, performance, battery life and security. The business results speak for themselves. As of March 31, we had sold more than 140 million Windows Vista licenses, and analyst firm forecasts indicate that Windows Vista adoption among businesses is on a similar pace as Windows XP in similar timeframes. Millions of enterprise users are already running Windows Vista, and we invite you to read their stories published in more than 100 case studies. The benefits they are experiencing range from energy conservation, lower TCO for mobile users, and greater security. Our job is not done, but we've worked hard with our ecosystem to improve the quality of Windows Vista and we're pleased with the customer response.
Another question we often get asked is whether Windows 7 is a major release. The answer is "yes" -- it's hard to describe any product that is used by millions of people and worked on by thousands of engineers as anything else. That said, the long-term architectural investments we introduced in Windows Vista and then refined for Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 will carry forward in Windows 7. Windows Vista established a very solid foundation, particularly on subsystems such as graphics, audio, and storage. Windows Server 2008 was built on that foundation and Windows 7 will be as well. Contrary to some speculation, Microsoft is not creating a new kernel for Windows 7. Rather, we are refining the kernel architecture and componentization model introduced in Windows Vista. While these changes will increase our engineering agility, they will not impact the user experience or reduce application or hardware compatibility. In fact, one of our design goals for Windows 7 is that it will run on the recommended hardware we specified for Windows Vista and that the applications and devices that work with Windows Vista will be compatible with Windows 7.
We are well into the development process of Windows 7, and we're happy to report that we're still on track to ship approximately three years after the general availability of Windows Vista. As always, we will be releasing early builds of Windows 7 prior to its general availability as a means to gain feedback, but we're not yet ready to discuss timing and specific plans for any Beta releases. In the meantime, customers can confidently continue with their Windows Vista deployment plans.
I know many of you will have questions regarding specifics of Windows 7. As Chris states above we're not ready to discuss specifics for Windows 7 just yet.
Please hold off on asking any questions targeting any thing specific (like features, betas, etc) about Windows 7 just yet as we'll unable to give you answers.
Thanks,
Brandon
Chris Flores
many many many many many THX!!!!!!!
GREAT!
Thanks for the update Chris
XD you think 140 million Windows Vista licenses has been sold, you think Millions of enterprise users are already running Windows Vista, you think Windows Vista adoption among businesses is on a similar pace as Windows XP, you think windows vista is energy conservation please windows vista takes more power then my pc. windows vista adoption to users has been very slow. windows vista is unstable. so all this information you gave us about windows 7 is the future, windows vista should be erased from the markets and publish windows xp until windows 7 because windows vista is the most worst os since windows ME maybe a little worst but it doesnt matter microsoft cheated to us, you also lied for example windows ultimate extras,an updated media center,drivers update,etc...to all windows xp users dont upgrade to windows vista just wait till windows 7 because windows vista sucks..CHOW
Will Windows 7 deal with the patchwork effect, where features which aren't convenient for the marketing department get little or no update?
One thing I hear complaints about is the fact that none of the icon revamps are comprehensive - every time Microsoft adds a new icon style they don't replace all the icons in the OS, leading to a patchwork effect where you can see progressively older icons running back as far as 2000 or before.
This even runs to user interface elements - I don't think I need to elaborate on the Install New Font dialog. It would create a much more favourable impression if Microsoft showed this element of care and attention.
How ironic that Microsoft PR was feeding information to the money blogs to try and influence the Yahoo deal, yet the Microsoft developer community blogs are not part of the conversation on Windows 7.
@windows vista ultimate user254
e mamma mia , silent Pls!!
More information for developer would be great. Will there be any improvements for the gadgets? Can they be written in C# instead of javascript/vbscript?
need a bit of help
ive invented a device for laptop pc and for handheld technology to help it become more mobile so far i havent seen anything like it before it can have up to five functions it will also be good when the stretch screen arrives i also have ideas for a community software and can also be applied for advertisement and ideas for the computer game.
ive called microsoft for this one but they said they only accept ideas certified by fortune 500. ive already emailed fortune 500 they havent respond can anyone help me with this one pls thx.
I think that Windows 7, should be
an operating system that can be used as touchscreen,
more connectivity with all systems, such as windows mobile 7, xbox live, zune
and it's must be a modular system, where people can decide how to use it, at startup.
As dovella said, mamma miaaa :)
Hi Chris,
Just wanted to say that this is probably the best approach. I think what really had "doomed" Vista in the public's eyes was that there were many promises early on that ended up not being met as the product needed to ship. That's not to say Vista is a bad product itself, it's just not what people expected after they were promised certain features.
Hopefully we see quite a few new features when Windows 7 hits, and hopefully some of them are more on the technical front than in the past.
I've enjoyed the changes to things such as GPMC in Server 2008 and have a pretty good expectation on what to hopefully see in Windows 7.
Good luck!
i have a small question
now this blog in future convert in Windows 7 blog or microsoft create a new Blog??
PingBack from :
http://winse7en.blogspot.com/2008/05/communicating-windows-7.html
I don't know where to send a feedback for Vista Ultimate extras I've been using Desk Drive "free to anyone" for a few days now and like it but the drawback is the memory usage. Something similar to desk drive as ultimate extras would be nice.
Desk Drive: Desk Drive adds a desktop icon pointing to the drive automatically. Remove the media and the shortcut goes away. http://blueonionsoftware.com/deskdrive.aspx
JUST MAKE IT SOLID!
Speaking of major and minor releases, I always felt XP was an absolutely major release with thousands of fine improvements and tweaks over Windows 2000. I'm a die hard fan of Microsoft products ever since I started my stint with Windows 95 and I'm dying to beta test Windows 7, but I guess it's too late now? I wasn't accepted into the Longhorn betas and was extremely disappointed and sad. I know that I must be 1 in a million people wanting to test it but I can really test it comprehensively and give quality feedback since I know Windows in and out and contribute regularly to Wikipedia articles. So my question is are there any hopes for invites in early betas before the product is code/feature complete?
While I appreciate that Microsoft has always pushed innovation and change forward in its operating systems, here is one major-four step-flaw I find in it's architecture:
Step 1) Release New operating system
Step 2) Take years to bring compatibility to the average person (aka, most of the population of the world that isn't tech-savvy. There's more than you think & I help them every day with every blue screen and Windows crash!)
Step 3) Make the operating system practically perfect and running without barely any problems
Step 4) Release new operating system practically right after previous operating system becomes nearly-perfect, thus continuing a battle for compatibility and "making x program/application/game run"
Windows 98 was practically perfect, until programs and applications became specifically written for XP, then everyone 'had' to move to XP (skip Windows ME, it was in the line with 98), which didn't work with everything ironically enough.
The same is happening with Vista, XP is practically perfect, but programs are being specifically written for Vista now, but at the same time compatibility is limited.
On another note, I work in the Tech industry, and the everyday user is complaining so much about Vista it's becoming a selling point for purchasing a Mac. I see and hear more of this every day.
Microsoft, please stop basing your decisions off of "numbers" and your sales, and listen to the average user which should be your largest market. Not only is Windows Vista losing current (and long-term!) customers to Apple, once they move to Apple it will be twice as difficult to convince them to make the move back.
On a lighter note, I do enjoy Windows Vista and a number of its features, but that is because I am a Tech that knows how to work around its flaws.
In a new operating system shouldn't Microsoft swing towards a more capable real mode of handling memory than serving hidden aspects of Virtualization so to use without restarting a hibernation of certain running apps and system defaults that are not necessary such as icons and then use ImageX (WIM format) for compressing a range of photos to send instead of sending photo per photo. If this were the case I feel faster communications for wireless phones would result in their hibernation mode sending the ImageX (WIM) would not have to have use of the programming aspects to select photo by photo and wait for a time span per photo to occur to complete another send. If I were to make a program control aspect depend on a memory sequence ImageX would be my first choice to store the running programs so to restart simply by uncompressing the ImageX (WIM). If this is not understood by you please explain why. Why then is Windows 7 not a compelling operating system to engage this sort of control over the software in use including all and parts of Windows 7. If we were using this principle within a camera which could transmit photos, the (WIM) would be transmitted not the photo per photo principle where we are at today with digital products, a SD Memory Card would be capable of handling any file format so theres really no limit of how many photos and (WIM) setups stored could be zapped up into a file to sent. If trying to found a new aspect like hologram communication this principle would be a major drive matter. It is superior to Virtualization so don't tell me you cannot give consumers what they should be paying for. Make communications programming that can be universal per phone being served don't depend on the majority to guide your insight of how programming should be created when the majority is nothing like this whatsoever, if you want to send one photo just don't click the hibernate button which runs your selected program options and it sends one photo which would be a default value, a button expedities the hibernation sequence shutting down what is not necessary to store a ImageX (WIM) and then sends the ImageX (WIM) that pure and deletion of the ImageX (WIM) after sent would be possible or you can resend the ImageX (WIM) again to a different phone. Why waste time having to recreate a ImageX (WIM).
In other words:
"We still have no word from Apple about the features in OS X 10.6, so we have no idea what we're going to try to copy for Windows 7"
namaste.
OS X is the operating system of iPhone made by AT&T for Apple. If iPhone is going to found faster modes the now sold out devices are not going to be able ready for consumers if AT&T grasps what compression and decompression of images mean to transmission speeds so there will have to be a different model which can interpret ImageX if that is what AT&T would consider. In all attempts to match the processing speed of a 64bit operating system iPhone may never break ground but there are possibilities that could be founded on the SD Memory card. One company Eye.Fi has a wireless capability on the 2GB Card and costs $129 making the computer auto sense the SD-HDD seems to be the only feasible option so ImageX operation could go into a card with the Wireless feature as well, its only a matter of time to originate a new phone onto the market. I mean Yahoo phone is something of the past as they commercially support Skype as well as that is a eBay company which eBay wants to sell.
For me Vista was a step back and i just use it for testing my own programs for compatibility reasons. My working environments are still Windows XP SP2 and OSX 10.5.
I really hope the next version of windows will be less overloaded than Vista.
Also a lot of the "security" questions are totally annoying - for example: starting most of my used programs i always get a window like "This is application is not certified by Microsoft - are you sure you want to start it?"
I also dislike the current graphical user interface, because it is not a breakdown - so i always use "windows standard".
Last but not least i hope that the next windows will be include 32 and 64 bit (like OSX) in one version unlike the current situation.
As far as I see it, Windows 7 is stepping in Vista's footsteps, which is the wrong type of footsteps to be stepping in.
There are plenty of reasons as to why people haven't upgraded to Vista, and still wants XP support. The main reason is the system hog Vista became. The minimal requirements for Vista is only valid in an optimal environment, and lets face it, not many computers out there live up to those requirements.
You also have other reasons, like who in their right minds would buy an operating system for such a stiff price, when the one they got now is working perfectly fine? Expecially when there is no real valid reason to upgrade except if they live in the dillusion that Vista is actually a fix to security. Windows, no matter what version, is and will always be a target, no security in an operating system is good enough that it can't be cracked, bypassed or exploited. If, or should I say when, gnu/linux or OSX takes off, which it will if Microsoft keeps up current trends, we will begin to see the same thing happening there.
One of the biggest reasons why gnu/linux OS's and OSX hasn't made it big yet, is because of games. Microsoft has done well to secure that marked, and it's big. Games are resource hogs as well, so no sane gamer will ever upgrade to a cluttered, DRM filled, "fancy graphics" operated OS that only has a promise of breaking games. Plenty of people voiced their concern about Vistas requirements when they were released, Windows 7 seems only to do the same.
As for businesses, unless they are supported by Microsoft with cheap deals or cooperation, or microsoft takes them over in a more hostile manner, pushing for their product, then there is no sane businessman who would go for a heavy system when they can have a cheaper/free system which doesnt require a small nuke plant to run.
I do see the point for Microsoft to push Vista and 7 into the future, but your doing it wrong. Haven't you learned yet? As user254 says: Windows Vista is the biggest mistake since ME.
What you should be working on is a user friendly, CLEAN, modular and low memory print OS. We don't care about paint getting touch-screen useability or watching water ripples as the mouse fly across the screen, or having fancy transparent windows (which looks aweful in my opinion). We want an OS that we can control.. which means people have easy access to shut on and off all types of things from a list. Stop pushing on stuff we don't want.
This is the exact reason I like XP. It's fairly clean right out of the box. Some shutdowns of useless XP features in services (which is a bit hidden unless your a tech-savvy person), and XP runs like clockwork. Some external anti-viruses and such, which is required since no windows version will ever be secure, no matter how much you try to convince us, and I got the OS I love. Clean, user friendly, no bullshit.
Trust me, if you don't alter your approach on windows 7 now, and fix your stuff, then the year windows 7 comes out will be the year gnu/linux and OSX OS's start coming into play bigtime.
I've read that Windows 7 will include virtualization. I hope it's to a higher degree than simply including Virtual PC as an added application. Honestly, we users (and the folks that support them), want to run our applications. We don't care that our OS has snazzy graphics/animations, gizmos, gadgets and what not that only suck resources preventing our applications to run smoothly. It's less about the OS and more about what we can run on it - IMHO. Just ask the legions of XP supporters and they'll say the same thing...
This feels some kind of old and and some how stolen. And by the way, AT&T didn't develop the OS for iPhone. The OS in iPhone is Mac OS X in a stripped version.
Chris I'm sorry I thank you for confirming the rumors I've heard about Windows 7 but to be honest I have to say that as a 20 Year PC user dating back to DOS and one who remembers using the original Windows 1.0 you cannot convince me that this pre press release of Windows 7 does not mean the death of Windows Vista. If people remember there history correctly Windows 3.1 was truly outdated from a software and hardware aspect when Windows 95 was first released and Windows 98 which came out a few years later was not a new OS but was truly an upgrade of Windows 95 albeit much more stable / faster. However when Windows ME came out right on the heals of Windows 2000 (which was the first OS from Microsoft not built on DOS) it was a total flop and a lot of consumers lost money (including myself) as they would have been better off staying with Windows 98 until the release of Windows XP unless they were a business user and could have benefited from upgrading to Windows 2000 from 98 which is not a true product lineage since Windows NT was the workstation / network version that users would have more than likely upgraded from in a business environment. Windows ME should have never happened. Windows 98 SE was the most stable fastest performing OS Microsoft had released and had enough software / hardware compatibility to carrier it well into 2002 when XP was first released without the insanity known as Window ME. I feel like we are in the same boat again as consumers and in my case an IT professional with Windows Vista. Windows XP Professional SP2 is rock solid stable and super-fast on today's PC's where as even the latest top of the line PC struggles with Vista to the point where I've had PC's with Quad Core processors, 512 MB Graphic Cards and 4 GB of memory that still performed slower in basic task than a computer running half of those specs on an XP Box. So without sounding like a conspiracy theorist I honestly believe that these "interim" releases like Windows ME and now Windows Vista are really using the publics funds as test beds to tweak and hammer out issues before the real OS comes out. i have no doubt that Windows 7 will be a great OS in the tradition of Windows 98 SE and Windows XP Pro SP2 but I just wish it had not been out our expense again as with Windows ME; Windows Vista should have never been released XP could have lasted with SP3 for several more years until 7 was ready for release. Just my humble take sorry!
"applications and devices that work with Windows Vista will be compatible with Windows 7"
You mean the hundreds of millions of users running XP (mostly because Vista sucks) won't be able to upgrade to Windows 7 either? Thanks for nothing, and in case you haven't noticed the vast majority of enterprise customers are NOT upgrading to Vista due to instability, performance and compatibility issues Microsoft apears to be ignoring.
A lot of my legacy applications run just fine under XP Pro SP3, but won't run under Vista (any flavor) and the few that do have so many performance and stability issues with little in the way of compelling new features to make it worth my time to recommend upgrading my enterprise to Vista. The huge cost of hardware upgrades, software upgrades, driver updates added to the amount of work required to get it to work right for the reward of... what? Slower performance, unstable TCP/IP stack, hardware incompatibility and that annoying block or allow box popping up all day long?
I've got an enterprise to support and we don't see enough reward to go through the type of thorough overhaul of our infrastructure necessary to implement Vista, not to mention the huge cost in lost productivity once Vista is running on our workstations.
IT'S TOO SLOW.
If Microsoft is serious about "delivering great experiences" for their customers, they would release their new OS that was more compatible with their customer's needs and existing environment. Microsoft seems only committed to helping their business partner's bottom line (ie: buy new hardware, buy new software and change your network) The customers who have gone through this painful and hugely expensive process wake up the morning after only to find out Vista is considerably slower and less stable than XP. Talk about regret. Most of them are asking the question: "Why did we do this?"
Microsoft's answer is the same canned answer they have been giving us since Windows 98: "It's more stable. It's more secure. It's better."
Doesn't sound like Microsoft listens to their "customers" at all if Windows 7 is only going to be a mutated version of Vista.
Well, it did practically read AT&T makes everything, I knew OSX was made by Apple and runs on Apple computers, nothing much different to iPhone but how could iPhone be any better a product if it cannot improve without losing its customers to another product down the road I see how iPhone is a impractical device for Electric Vehicles. Sure set programming cannot be hibernated, its a on/off matter like iPhone is so a upgrade does change nothing as the same buttonry and architecture is still doing the same old sorting routines and this is a bad oman for AT&T whom goes on what Apple tells them to do and nothing extra so AT&T really cannot input anything which would make much difference. So I wouldn't want iPhone in a Electric Vehicle at all and what I would want is a built-in much similar to the Lexus LS600H made in Japan, it is a handsfree with a possible remote headset but offers a extra punch for security in case of tampering or theft it can auto dial security having preaccessed GPS [Lexus Link Advisor]. The Lexus LS600H was recently purchased by Paul McCartney, More About Here: http://webpages.charter.net/cmjaltx/docs/LexLS600H/LexLS600H.html.
Elaborating further by showing that Electric Vechicle computing is still waiting for programming specialists (Wheres Microsoft In Development) that know how to use ImageX (WIM) and when it should be used.
Time of day traffic analysis reveals that certain aspects would be evident during certain times of day and this would become a stored (WIM) to access during that time of day. During certain times of the day it might be advisable not to recharge the vehicle, power companies need to do a study per neighborhood served during certain times of day to define the load characteristics to consumers so that they could recognize this in their program, else a data input resulting from a monitored load coming from the power company needs to be received through their power grid into the system program so that the Electric Vehicle could instruct you if the time was a good time or a bad time to recharge the vehicle. Loads increase during extra moments where torque and horsepower is needed such as climbing a hill or pulling a object.
ImageX (WIM) is a principle to create special discs of the HDD space which contains a operating system so the disc becomes a installation disc and ImageX (WIM) has command line options. ImageX does not have anyother feather, learn about ImageX here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905116.aspx
Windows Vista has a API for the WIM image format called WIMGAPI and developers use it to work with WIM image files based on disk imaging. WIM image format enhanced Windows Vista.
In design of ImageX developers never have considered another purpose for it and that is how a new hibernation feature could be a major improvement in Windows 7 and for Communications. I recommend Microsoft to study this proposition further.
I hate that Vista works as well as it does. I hate that I never have to restart my laptop. I hate that Vista runs all the programs I need quickly and without any problems. I hate that I don't worry about security with Vista. I hate that I can plan on Vista to always work. I hate that I am more productive with Vista. I hate that everything I need is so easy to get to with Vista.
What a wonderful upgrade Vista is over XP.
God, Microsoft can you stop innovating and making things better. You are really making my computing experience better and I can't have that.
I am running Vista Ultimate on a new Dell laptop and a P4 system with 2GB of ram and both systems work very well.
I will say that DreamScene with Ultimate doesn't make much sense to me.
I am exceited to see Windows become even more modular.
Glad to hear that MS are getting the message about what will be in Win7 straight before talking about it publicly. All that happened not doing that about Longhorn was that you created a lot of disappointment as each touted feature was removed.
As an IT Consultant, developer and a user who has used MS Operating systems since DOS 3 that I think you should get the following things right:
1. Performance on current modest hardware, this may be by making the system modular so that a user or IT department can add or remove features that would excessively slow a system that the user is prepared to live without. E.g. being able to turn off the Aero effects such as transparency like you can currently do but additionally being able to remove chunks of the system that you don't need such as the multimedia aspects that probably aren't needed in a business setting where the machine is just used for email spreadsheets and word processing.
2. Don't listen to all the Mac OSX crap, a good deal of Windows users couldn't give a flying f*ck whether Mac OSX looks prettier than Windows or is "cooler", most of us prefer boring if it works faster and lets us achieve what we wan't before we go home for the day. Let the air heads continue to buy Macs we don't want them here!
3. Get rid of UAC, it doesn't work as a security mechanism as within about a day of paying attention to it the average user is automatically hitting the "OK allow" button without even reading what it says. It causes so many other applications to break in the background it becomes a nightmare to troubleshoot what is causing programs to fail or behave strangely. It would be much better to apply heuristic techniques like most anti-spyware programs and decide whether an application or script is doing something dangerous and only block its activity under those circumstances.
4. Don't change things for the sake of change, e.g. why change "Add or Remove Programs" to be "Programs And Features" why change the order of tick boxes in the tick list of features in the start menu configuration, it's pointless and causes seasoned users to waste time and thus productivity having to relearn where evrything is! Sure add new functionality but keep the paradigm the same so it's easy for users and support people to remain productive.
5. Keep the Win7 product line simple:
Win7 Home
Win7 Business
Win7 Ultimate
6. Make it cheap to upgrade:
Win7 Home £50 boxed and £25 OEM
Win7 Business £80 boxed, £40 OEM
Win7 Ultimate £100 boxed, £50 OEM
(For US readers double numbers for $ value)
Do this and you have a winner, do not and you'll lose the user base to Linux and Mac.
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Charles Michael Jones, I don't quite understand. You having a issue with leaving a comment here? I can check to see if it got caught in our spam filter.
Let me know when the beta is out. I am 69 years old and don't have a life. I have an extra swapable hard drive that I would love to see how really old programs work on it or how I could mess it up. I tried to load windows 95
it for kicks but I could get drives for my hardware. On Vista I have a Microsoft game pack dated 1994 that works great. The first machine my son and I built was a 8086. Don't laugh we were big time we had 2 5.25 floppy drives in it. Bring on Windows 7 I will see if I can mess it up.
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OK Brandon LeBlanc, I'm a new member here and have tried several times was wondering if there is some Keywords which are not suppose to be used reason why the post is not posting. I read others postings and mine still not there, started like...
Well, it did practically read AT&T makes everything, I knew OSX was made by Apple and runs on Apple computers, nothing much different to iPhone but how could iPhone be any better a product if it cannot improve without losing its customers to another product down the road I see how iPhone is a impractical device for Electric Vehicles.
[end of 1st sentence] I have not logged out, been quite busy away and still here, Vista keeping the site HOT!
Two things......first..I must say that one of my machines is running Vista SP1, and I have had no problem whatsoever, including games. I've been happy with it, and personally, now that I'm used to the Aero Glass feature, the screen looks very plain without it. More importantly, the system runs very well. Sure, it requires more power and a more potent geaphics card, but so do the new games that I play.
Second.....it was mentioned that a new kernel is being developed for Windows 7. One thing myself and many other gamers would like to see is the 32 bit versions not having the low limit on system ram. 32 bit XP and Vista have the 3.32 gig limit on how much ram can be used, and most gamers are moving well beyond that, even now. At least an 8 gig limit for 32 bit systems would be nice, without being forced to go 64 bit, and deal with the added issues of finding drivers, etc.
I'm surprised this limit with ram on 32 bit machines has still not been rectified, especially since more ram is now needed to run the OS anyway.
Clark1221, the 4Gb limit in 32-bit XP and Vista is not a Microsoft issue, it's a X86 architecture limit. No matter how hard you try, you can't make a 32-bit OS that can handle more than 4Gb because is just plain impossible.
That's what I've heard anyway.
P.S. About you comment regarding gaming and Vista, I'm glad you have not had many problems but it is a widespread issue that games run slower in Vista than in XP... specially games made for Vista... like Halo 2 which was locked down as a Vista only title (god knows why) was running waaaaaay faster in XP (which some people got running with a simple patch). Also, Crysis runs a good %20 slower in Vista than XP and that's using a 9800GTX and a 3Ghz Core Duo.
Maybe it's a GPU driver issue but looking around at benchmarks it seems that as a rule of thumb games do run slower in Vista.
The good news is that after being fed up with my Vista business upgrade, I did a clean install and it actually does run better.
The bad news is that evidently, I can't perform a clean install with my Vista business upgrade dvd. I can only upgrade.
My mouth literally fell open at this stupidity. Please tell me there's been a mistake that I can fix. If not, please (for the sake of future Windows releases) tell me that everyone who was ever involved with Vista has quit, been fired or been kicked sideways.
Anybody want to buy a Vista Business upgrade dvd for cheap?
I like Vista! I want Windows 7 to be more applicative so it can hibernate without shutting down and without being Virtualized. Systems monitoring is critical but automation is a design factor, suppose we want to drive slow instead of the speed limit, suppose we want to use arm signaling instead of blinkers, suppose we want to let other drivers know we have a real-time emergency before we encounter them and be posted on a highway sign so they can watch out for us heading that way. I mean if we cannot drive above 100 MPH we need some additions support out on the highway which indicates a emergency is occuring allow it to pass.
I have my problems with Vista, and still primarily use xp pro. If anything I would like to see Microsoft really listen to feed back, I seen a lot of complaints in the beta of Vista, and I seen Microsoft ignore them to downright act condescending to anyone who complained about a feature or change. Microsoft seems to be listening more now, I just hope the trend continues. I do have to add, please allow more user customization, locking down the UI to the extent that Vista has is not user freindly.
Superpotato, "Why then is there a 64 bit version for a X86 architecture"? On this Dell Inspiron I found that it acknowledges it has Installed Physical Memory (RAM): 4.00 GB , Total Physical Memory: 3.18 GB , Available Physical Memory: 1.40 GB , Total Virtual Memory: 5.02 GB , Available Virtual Memory: 3.32 GB , Page File Space: 1.91 GB. It is running OS Name: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium , Version: 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001. The Processor is AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, 2300 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s). It is the 32 bit version but it upgrades to 64 bit and then the 4.00 GB limit is there as I have the memory installed for it.
OK so it must be my link to my Charter website and a Windows Vista Technet URL as well, the Spammer is picking up in my Post and that means anything 'Charter' or 'Windows Vista Technet' would be classed as Spam, can someone change a setting! Heres the remainder without both links. Still trying to get this posted here. It really should not be a issue as stated in Help ... When word filters are enabled certain words that are deemed to be offensive are filtered and replaced with the ‘*’ character.
Sure set programming cannot be hibernated, its a on-off matter like iPhone is so a upgrade does change nothing as the same buttonry and architecture is still doing the same old sorting routines and this is a bad oman for AT&T whom goes on what Apple tells them to do and nothing extra so AT&T really cannot input anything which would make much difference. So I wouldn't want iPhone in a Electric Vehicle at all and what I would want is a built-in much similar to the Lexus LS600H made in Japan, it is a handsfree with a possible remote headset but offers a extra punch for security in case of tampering or theft it can auto dial security having preaccessed GPS, Lexus Link Advisor. The Lexus LS600H was recently purchased by Paul McCartney {Charter Link Removed}.
mmm in acer aspire 9410z runs better Linux, windows vista runs tooo slooow XD conclusion: linux is better than windows xp, vista and windows 7 ...
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I have a Vista-certified Tablet PC that had Vista RTM & SP1 installed 5 times now, and something goes wrong every time with one driver or another or install fails. At present it's sitting in a corner since it can longer find its keyboard drivers after the latest format and reinstall. A month of PSS time has completely failed to help, so I'm going back to XP.
hitmouse, what do you mean by PSS time?
I suggest taking a look at our Windows Vista SP1 FAQ and contacting Microsoft Support who have agents who can help troubleshoot the issues you are having with Windows Vista SP1.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsexperience/pages/windows-vista-sp1-faq.aspx
Spike, it's no use saying how much better Linux runs when you can't get the software you want and need on it (and don't say use WINE, compatibility is a joke). I don't know about you, but I don't sit all day staring at the OS transferring files, I use the OS to run apps. So no, Linux is not better, not until it can run ALL the software I need and want.
"From a quality perspective, both Windows Vista SP1 and the ecosystem have delivered measurable progress in the six dimensions of quality we track -- device compatibility, application compatibility, reliability, performance, battery life and security."
Well according to the same six dimensions your current XP SP3 users track (oh Mr. Microsoft Communications) here is what the people who use XP have to say about Vista's alleged "success".
Device compatibility. New stuff does not work without lots of tinkering, even those with the "Vista compatible" logo. FAIL
Application compatibility. Too many legacy applications and many new applications carrying the "Vista compatible" logo won't run on Vista. FAIL
Reliability. Way more reboots and blue screens than XP on her worst day. FAIL
Performance. Not even close to XP performace, even when you handicap the comparison by giving Vista more RAM and a faster CPU. FAIL
Battery life. No improvement. About the same as XP. Neutral
Security. No improvement and GPU is so annoying as to be worthless. And speaking of security, who in their right mind relies on Microsoft (anything) for securty? FAIL.
Remind me again, Mr. Microsoft Communication, what, exactly are you basing your glowing self-assement on?
Brandon - you may not have been at MS long enough to know that PSS = Product Support Services.
I have spent a month with MS getting email and phone support, most of it a complete waste of time. At the end of the period, my Tablet was in a worse state due to the diagnostic code they asked me to run. I could no longer get Windows Updates and any other software I tried to install, including Windows Live Messenger and Adobe Acrobat simply generated .NET assembly errors. A fresh install with Vista Ultimate SP1 made no difference other than it being unable to find keyboard or flash memory drivers any more. Ironically the pen is about the only thing that does work.
Regarding Windows 7 ... I just wish MS would make a rock solid, functional, and efficient OS. There is no need to make it flashy and cute. But if you feel you need to, make the cutesy stuff options that can be easily turned on and off. Of all the potential users, only Joe Average home user is going to care about flash and glitz and cute. The larger share just want function and stability. I like many others on here, have been with MS since the early DOS days. Let Apple be cute toylike system. Let Windows be the system for serious computing. Nuff said.
hitmouse, I am sorry to hear about your issues. If you would like - you can email me your contact information and I can see if I can escalate your issue here on my side. Send me a PM here:
http://windowsvistablog.com/forums/AddPost.aspx?ForumID=0&UserId=16682
As long as the new windows operating system eats less memory and uses less cpu i'll be happy, and new features that dont exist currently.
I'm wondering if you could tell us where to get in on giving constructive feedback to the Windows 7 team. I think what's needed is to do a ground-up rewrite, eliminating backwards compatibility except perhaps in an included hypervisor for virtualization of legacy environments. No more Windows 9x code. Heck, no more Windows NT/2000 code. This is why Windows is such a pig. And I say that with the best of intentions, as I've made a career out of Windows. Seriously. Rewrite every piece of the core OS from scratch and just include a hypervisor to emulate legacy environments. I know it's a huge project. But it's the only way to really compete with Linux and OS-X in the corporate space, where you're going to see very soon that you're hemoragghing users.
You know Chris after years in process improvement, QA and continuous process management--I have to say I agree with the decision to be more "closed" and less "open." I believe some of the comments above reflect mismanaged expectations than real frustration with the product. Transparent communication between your engineers, our engineers, etc on the back end is essential. Sometimes we need to work together and manage internally first--before we let it all "hang out" in the ecosystem at large.
Recently i viewed few windows seven videos ,well can u answer why would any one stretch out their arms in order to use paint or any other application on a laptop or a desktop monitor (windows 7 ready) which is placed parallel to one’s body ?. Wouldn’t it be annoying to one having this feature but finding it useless? .This touch concept works perfectly for Microsoft surface as people sit around it to share data, snaps etc and also on Portable PC’s (without keyboards). But how on normal laptop’s en desktops with other input devices
I just read an article that Julie Larsen-Green has joined the Windows seven UI team she was the force behind the ribbon in MS Word, that was not to well received. I don't think Microsoft understands that major changes to the UI such as vista, IE 7 and still IE 8, and Office is very counter productive, for many users and companies. So Microsoft is taking a person that many believe made MS word unusable and put her in charge of making Windows 7 more usable? That's a bit like putting the fox in charge of the hen house. There is one advantage to this though, many companies are making money off of add-on's to make the UI's for office more user friendly and look the way it use to.
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I THINK 7 IS EASTER THAN VISTA & MORE SAFE
As I read through these posts,it became very apparent I don't keep up as much as I'd like to. I found out about Windows 7 about 1 1/2 to 2 months ago and surprised everyone I knew with the "interesting" news.
Here's how it hit me. Simply. Perfect. Business. Microsoft doesn't hate the end-user, but they aren't impressed with the recent whining either; it was expected.
Here's how it's playing out right before your eyes:
XP is sort of old. We have cool new ideas for GUI. Technology is changing. What do we do.... GOT IT! Let's make something pretty and flashy with new gizmos to keep people focused on the future.
Ok, so time passes and here's VISTA!!!!!! pause.
Back track a few months before shipping Vista. Uh, guys, this just won't fly "for real"... I GOT IT!!! Let's use the foundation (since we've already wasted so much time) and develop Windows 7 in parallel. Let's give it a secret code name like "Afterburn" or "The Knife Twister".
So, months go by development continues and then guess what? Vista is no longer a concern. Forget about support. Forget about crying about it. Vista (and whatever critisism followed) was out of Microsoft's mind before it hit the shelf. And thanks to the failure and tears, they KNOW you'll be salivating for something better. Simply. Perfect. Business. But seriously, I can't wait for 7. I'm rather excited!
I m quiet impressed by microsoft claiming Vista being on the same market level as Xp
people like me have been using Xp SP2 for a long time and we were impetiantely waiting for Vista and when Vista finally came out we ran for it and do you(microsoft) ask yourself why a lot of us downgraded back to Xp, simple, Vista is one of the worst OS in microsoft history following the trates of windows 2000 and dont tell me you doing well with Vista because you not, no wonder you are are planning to launch another OS(windows 7)
my pc was is custom built by myslef and running on 4gb of ram and a 3.4ghz processor with a 1gb graphics card, i invested money on my machine but Vista proved me wrong with frequent hangs,crahes and generally slow, its compatibility range is nothing compared to Xp
the truth is you launched Vista prematurely and it was not what we were promised, i just hope you Windows 7 doesnt have the same bugs as Vista
Please let all the completion ports related stuff like in Windows Vista. It is awesome compare with XP.
Go for it!
Juan
sou amante de pc e gostaria de receber windows7
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