An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

Nick White — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:38:45 GMT

Hey bruce109: because we're not equipped to offer support here via the blog, you're better off directing your inquiry to our Windows Update forum: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&lang=en&cr=US&r=35a08973-862c-479d-b043-0aca832430b1.

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

bruce109 — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:32:26 GMT

Hello,

Regarding Windows Update, I have Vista Home Premium on my PC and have been unable to use the update feature for several weeks. It does not matter whether i put it on automatic or try to manually install, it will not download anything. Can anyone help me to fix this? Thanks

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

uturn0427 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:15:35 GMT

Why would I trade?? You throw yours away for not updating, I'll throw mine away for updating without permission, and we can both go get MACS! I am furious with microsoft over this invasion on privacy/unauthorized manipulation of software. Microsoft update took a perfectly good running machine, updated while i was in the middle of formatting a drive and ruined the partition.. Not to mention I was having compatability issues with vista and whatever that update is that RUINED my partition when it rebooted on its own not even giving me an option to wait till later, NOW the software i was having the issues with but could work around before DOESNT work properly anymore...I'm not here just to bash MS Ive always preferred PC's over MAC but the direction they're going is not one I'd like to follow. What am i supposed to do about my partition???? Who's going to pay for that?? ME..Now Today i cannot run software i could run yesterday??? SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR COMPUTER ALONE WHEN IT IS WORKING FINE. WHY FIX SOMETHING THAT ISNT BROKE??!?! SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT END UP BREAKING SOMETHING TRYING TO DO THAT!! Thanks alot Microsoft you just lost another customer...

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

zarjazz — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:38:17 GMT

if anyone wants to trade, i have a computer with windows vista that won't install any of the updates. even if i manually attempt to install the updates, the computer has an error and the installation fails.

i'll trade with anyone else. you can get an un-updating windows vista that's all screwed and i'll get yer machine?

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re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

Nick White — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:16:27 GMT

Hey hhurtta: there are times when updates require an update to files and applications currently in use. In order to complete the installation of the update, those programs must be shut down. All reboots required for update installation follow the policies and settings selected on your machine, so if a reboot is required, this will be handled by the WU settings or can be overridden by Group Policy.

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

hhurtta — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:08:38 GMT

I too am glad to see that Microsoft admits that maybe doing stuff like this is a mistake.

I hope that in the future Microsoft puts away this "we know this better that our customers" attitude that too often raises it's head. In some cases community can affect things, like happened with startup sound of Vista. Thank god, it drove me grazy after just ten startups! And if I recall correctly it was one Nick White who told that users don't now realize how subtle the sound is and how Microsoft knows better (ok, maybe not the last part...)

Still there is a problem eg. with some updates _forcing_ reboot unless you do some magics unclear to a basic user. This is really a _wrong_way_!! Really, what if I'm having some serious number crunching going on that must not be stopped in any case? The nagging screen is ok, but forcing a reboot just because MS thinks it knows better that the user is wrong. Can you please do something for it?

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re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

chakkaradeep — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:15:52 GMT

I dont know whether there was some automatic update been done without my knowledge, but my system(vista ultimate) is still alive and is working perfect as it should be working. So, unless updates screw my system, I am never bothered about these kinda issues. With Vista, updates are so good that it increases the performance of my system rather than degrading.

But it is good that a explanation was given :)

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

newscientist2000 — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:01:06 GMT

Thanks for the info Nick.

It's nice to see Microsoft is openly acknowledging problems when they are found, after all that really is the first step on the road to better software.

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

Nick White — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:03:11 GMT

Hey omgbbq, markm66, newscientist2000, Major Trumpet and everyone else: your coments are completely understandable and I'm making sure the WU team is well aware of how the community feels on this issue. You'll note in Nate's post (the one I linked to) that we freely admit to having fallen down on this issue and that we can, and should, do better when it comes to behaviors of this type and the necessary disclosure of same. Please know that we hear what you have to say and are taking your feedback seriously. (I, for one, want to avoid similar events in the future, as reactive posts such as this one are not what I want to spend my time blogging about.)

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

Major Trumpet — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:29:11 GMT

I am very distressed by this kind of continuing deceitful, and arrogant behavior by Microsoft. This is only the latest in Microsoft's attempts at collecting user data and modifying system files without notification or permission.

Perhaps Microsoft's army of lawyers has created a EULA to make this legally permissible, but it is still a violation of trust, and in the long run will turn customers and businesses away from Microsoft products.

Microsoft must once and for all realize that just because someone is using a Microsoft product that Microsoft does not have a right to clandestinely access or modify their systems and information FOR ANY REASON.

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

someone — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:10:59 GMT

Hey Nick, I just realized that in Windows Vista, there is no option to set menus to slide. Only the fade effect is available. Can you confirm that? I cannot find this anywhere else on the internet.

re: An explanation of Windows Update automatic updating

Jimpa101 — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:25:31 GMT

Microsoft has such a questionable history that this devious behavior is not unexpected. Look at the terrible things they have done in the past, the companies, careers, and dreams they have ruined with their fraudulent and deceitful antitrust business practices.