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1. ProAudio1

   
   Posted on: December 16, 2007 at 7:39PM  

   I mean to say "same goes for video" - all my video capture devices will not work with VISTA.

   Back to audio, no matter what I play on my VISTA-powered machine - DVD, video captured from the tuner, whatever - the video/audio "spits and sputters" every few minutes. Seems as though it's a buffering problem. I have Realtek audio drivers and have updated the drivers to the most current available. What's the relationship between HP, MS and Realtek?

   Will SP1 RC fix this spit and sputter issue?
2. newscientist2000

   
   Posted on: December 16, 2007 at 11:20PM  

   Well I just installed SP1 RC on a test system states SP1 is version v.668, it took more than half an hour + to install.  So far not much different to before SP1 before except I now have a How to Share Feedback button on the desktop.

   IE7 does seems a little faster, however I may just be imagining that.

   One difference I did note was that before I had 20 something days to activate windows on this test system and now its states 30 days?
3. shollomon

   
   Posted on: December 17, 2007 at 12:34PM  

   The point of my post about the message was the same as mfisher1967's.  Why not let the user decide if they want the warning on the desktop?  If we're installing this kind of thing, if fact if we know its there at all, it means we're savvy enough to understand its only slightly better than beta quality code and could hork our systems.

   Treating bleeding edge adopters like adults can play big benefits.  
4. Hakon Strande

   
   Posted on: December 17, 2007 at 2:41PM  

   To ProAudio1

   There are no known technical reasons why ASIO drivers and applications that leverage the ASIO interface for low latency audio content creation scenarios shouldn't work on Vista with fairly small tweaks.

   In fact Vista has driver models (like WaveRT) and application resource management features (like MMCSS) that will enable even better experiences once drivers and applications are updated to take advantage of these features.

   Mostly it is a matter of prioritization of development and test resources from the IHVs and ISVs creating such solutions. As with XP Gold back in 2001 it will be a little while before all these fairly small companies find it financially viable to spend development and test resources on a development for a new OS.

   To your stuttering playback issues; most of the time the stuttering is caused by a bad driver (not necessarily and audio driver) that holds off the system in long ISR/DPCs preventing the audio stream buffers from refilling in time and thus creating audible stuttering.

   Storage, network and graphics drivers have been identified as culprits here.

   The relationship between RealTek, HP and MS is such that typically bad driver bugs are root-caused and fixed in matter of days but the publishing of the new code takes a lot longer due to testing and web release schedules. I doubt your audio driver is at fault here though but you can try to disable the audio enhancements in the Sound COntrol Panel and see if that helps.

   Also, if you buy a PC with the Certifed for Windows Vista Logo ort upgrade your PC with parts that have this logo you have a better chance at a validated experience.

   If you use devices and systems that do not have the Certfied for Windows Vista logo the experience with Vista on that system has not been validated by anyone and is more of a crapshoot.

   Imagine Apple buying random hardware pieces and assembling a PC without testing it - even once - after assembly. What OS X experience would you expect from that PC? :-)

   Essentially you would have the same level of validation that a PC without the Certfied for WIndows Vista has had.

   Hakon Strande - Microsoft
5. Hakon Strande

   
   Posted on: December 17, 2007 at 4:39PM  

   Additionally - due to a problem with certain prosumer audio hardware with our Vista RTM audio system we have made a code change for Vista Service Pack 1 that solves a problem with some ASIO drivers not loading correctly. If you are having these issues even after installing SP1 you will need an ASIO driver update from the manufacturers of your prosumer audio device.

   Hakon Strande - Microsoft
6. Superpotato

   
   Posted on: December 17, 2007 at 7:41PM  

   Hakon, I think the biggest problem here is the lack of backward compatibillity that Vista has with XP. Seriously, it's not like Vista is a massive change in terms of technology compared to XP. Yes, it has a snazzy interface and that horrid UAC, but I get the feeling that a lot of the changes have no real use other than to show that Vista is a different OS to XP and that Microsoft actually did something during those 6 years of development.

   I'm just assuming, of course, but I would love to know the actual reason why Vista had to lack backwards compatibility.
7. decoda

   
   Posted on: December 17, 2007 at 11:26PM  

   will vista sp1, add suport for fiewire
8. Project Mayu

   
   Posted on: December 18, 2007 at 4:57AM  

   don't you mean firewire 800
9. PalmDesert

   
   Posted on: December 18, 2007 at 5:50AM  

       I installed SP1 about 18 hours ago onto my 5 month-old Fujitsu A6030 notebook.  I had to uninstall it 6 hours ago.  

       Upon final reboot, SP1 left me with no audio, no internet access (INTRA net only), program compatability errors with the Fujitsu HDD schock sensor, the Wacom Tablet, and doubled-row icons on the logon screen.

       I reinstalled the various drivers, but only the HD audio came back.

       With no internet access (using ie7, Firefox, and Netscape), I then performed a system recovery which rolled the system to pre-Sp1.  All works now except I am stuck with the double icons.

   (SYSINFO - T7250 Centrino Core Duo, 120Gb HD, 2Gb DDR2 SDRAM)
10. marcosvelasco

    
    Posted on: December 18, 2007 at 7:40AM  

    Hi!

    I want sent an email to "Windows Vista Development Team".  Maybe I found a bug and I need contact the team.

    But... What's email to contact ?

    Thank you

    Marcos