Comments

1. billva@betav.com

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 12:12PM  

   Sure, for those of us that know how to configure a system it's also not as fast as it should be--as it could be. But folks, this is a V1 product. It's bound to get faster over time--but how much faster? 10%? 20%? Microsoft has taken a big step by moving into the .NET Framework managed code approach to building applications. But these applications are stored on disk in intermediate code that must be compiled before (each) execution unless the binary is still in cache--again, more RAM means fewer compiles.

   Another issue seems to be what I call "Application Arrogance". That is, "My application is more important than any other application running." PowerPoint is one of those applications that has this attitude--it consumes all available RAM and the RAM of any system within 40' of the podium. But that application does not start at boot time. Because these arrogant application demand resources (robbing others of RAM and disk IO resources) at boot time, the system struggles to get started. All too often these are the virus protectors and services that can't be used until the system is fully started.

   Personally, I think that we're all in for some rough years until the "standard" user system is a quad-core with 16GB of RAM and 256mb video processors that require a liquid-cooled radiator attached to the LCD panel. I expect that to take about 4 years. By then (or before then) Microsoft promises to do it again--reinvent the wheel and give us another OS that consumes 150% of the available resources in a "standard" system.  

   Perhaps if the Vista team opened up Connect for feedback on the "released" product, it would not be so "in the dark" when it comes to these serious issues.
2. juliangall

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 12:26PM  

   It certainly seems true that Vista allows itself to be hogged by any program that wants to. I constantly have CPU at 100% and I have a fairly new PC (single core). The big difference seems come with dual core machines, where one core can be maxed out but the other is still available to respond to the user. Perhaps Vista could restrict any single program to 50% CPU when running on a single core.

   Microsoft developers should be made to use machines no newer than 3 years old so that they appreciate what users have to put up with.
3. BlackLight

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 1:31PM  

   after installing the SP1 RC, was hoping to fix my major problem which ( Calculating time ) while copying or moving files from my Internal Hard Drive to a NAS or a network Drive.

   But No Luck, i still have explorer not responding and the system freeze.

   hopefully with the final release of SP1, will have this fix.
4. Korn1699

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 1:47PM  

   My desktop was built over 4 years ago.  I have upgraded the memory, graphics card, and added a couple hard drives since then, but it runs Vista Ultimate fine.  In some cases programs actually run better then on my Inspirion 1520 laptop that I bought during the summer with basically the best options.  My old laptop that was about 3 years old and ran Vista fairly well, although I ended up upgrading the memory.  I don't just run windows on these systems either.  Most upgrades were to keep up with the newest games and increase performance when doing development.

   Just because a computer is new or old doesn't really matter a lot. If you buy a faster system, it will run things better.  Also, dual core systems have been around for a few years on both laptops and desktops.
5. wwahammy

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 5:15PM  

   I second billva@betav.com in his request for a Connect program for released products. We can help fix the problems and give you better bug reports if you let us. We will help research problems and provide you with more information but without a systematic way of doing so, it seems like a total waste of time. Learn from Mozilla's Bugzilla tool, it's great.
6. someone

   
   Posted on: December 12, 2007 at 5:29PM  

   Dear Microsoft,

   I still do not understand the point behind URLs/websites showing up in the dropdown list in Open/Save dialog boxes. If it's a bug, why not fix it in SP1 RTM?
7. GGCAN

   
   Posted on: December 13, 2007 at 8:36AM  

   I'm not sure about all these whiners, but I love Vista...I've had it since March 07 and sure there were a few problems, but I find I have many problems still on my XP machine as well and that's been out a LOT longer. Seems many people just don't want change, or to learn something new. Anyways, I've installed SP1 and yes, it does seem to have improved quite a few things. As for installs, just make sure you are using Administrator for any updates that let you install as Admin..I've been doing that and don't seem to have many problems. So far all I can say is good work !
8. Ng Yung Wai

   
   Posted on: December 13, 2007 at 8:45AM  

   A lot of you who has thank you are we who give WINDOWS VISTA SP ..one offer.. and now ..pirate edition VISTA... Those kinds of that might stop time. It is hoped that true new version SP1 can improve the pirate edition. However, vista cannot use bitlocker at many at a corporate version for which it to which one bug appears uses vista in a word now. So much with stability as of seven with IE that hopes to improve it still still. It is hoped to improve it.

   Thank you the software of microsoft long ..the hope for it red...
9. Kura

   
   Posted on: December 13, 2007 at 10:35AM  

   I installed.

   System hung when trying to shutdown (configuring updates....)

   On re-boot, system worked but it doesn't look like the update was installed.

   Checked the update log and last update was a couple of days ago.

   When I tried to reinstall got message "this update doesn't apply..."

   So the systems seems to think it was sort of installed.  Any way to confirm it was or delete it so I can try again?

   I have always had a lot of shutdown problems.

   thanks
10. Kura

    
    Posted on: December 13, 2007 at 10:36AM  

    woops...

    posted in the wrong forum...sorry.

    these comments were for the 12/11 release, not the SP1.  Sorry.