Closure of RC2, Feedback Handling in the New York Times, and Licensing Information for Windows

As you've probably already surmised, downloads of Windows Vista RC2 for the Customer Preview Program (CPP) have now closed and the links are no longer active.  We were bowled over by your response to RC2 -- in fact, we hit our download target (200K+) within 72 hours of propping the files!  This is an incredible response.

Special thanks go out to everyone who participated in the CPP by downloading and installing this new build, and please keep the feedback coming -- it makes a huge difference.

If you want another take on how your feedback helps and how the team tracks it, check out this story in the tech section of the New York Times.  (The story also has a good photo of the Life Cycle team -- that’s Sven Hallauer, Director of the Life Cycle team, in the black t-shirt, second from the left.  For more from Sven on the process of getting builds out to the public and what RC2 is all about, check out this podcast).

The amount of information coming out of the Windows Team between now and business availability in November is going to be daunting, but we’re really excited about Windows Vista and we know you are, too, so we’ll do our best to give you as much detail as soon and as often as we can.

On that note, today MS.com published the retail license terms for Windows Vista; you can find them here.  Two notable changes between Windows Vista license terms and those for Windows XP are: 1) failure of a validation check results in the loss of access to specific features (this is the SPP news you’ve likely been reading about this past week); and 2) an increase in our warranty period from 90 days to 1 year, which brings Windows in line with most other Microsoft products.


Comments

  1. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 2:15AM  

    Hey mhornyak, can I get your FREE copy of Vista Premium from you.  I'll install it on my machine :-)

  2. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 4:20AM  

    I cannot believe that you are going to restrict reinstallation/transfer of Vista licenses to two machines essentially. What is going to happen for the enthusiast market? Ok, I want to upgrade to a new processor in a year. Oh wait... I can't, I just upgraded my hard disk a year ago. Sorry, you have to buy a new license. Have a motherboard burn out, and want to upgrade to a new processor/mobo? Sorry, but you have to get a new license.

    I guess you can see where this is going. All these licensing restrictions and caps on what we can do is just going to piss the consumer more and more off. Sure, maybe this will only apply to 1% of the market, but this is like the frog in the boiling water; are we going to lose all our freedom?

    Essentially, what you're telling us is this: The 1% of you users can't be trusted, so we're going to punish the rest of the 99% out there.

    Please don't make me switch to that operating system...

  3. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 5:50AM  

    If what I've read about the licence agreement is true (only getting to transfer the licence to another machine once) then this will be enough to make me stay away from Vista.

    I upgrade my machine on a yearly cycle, usualy graphics. hard disk one year, then motherborard/cpu/ram in alternate years. Sometimes sooner when there's a step change like PCI express.

  4. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 7:05AM  

    I have to agree - I've been testing Vista on RC1 and I like it - I'm not particularly into eye candy but I like the features of Vista. However, I also like changing components in my PC and tinkering with it. If the licensing model being touted is correct I will *not* be purchasing Vista (to my regret.)

    Surely one of the great strengths of the PC is the ability to change components, it is, essentially, a modular platform. Crippling that ability (within a very expensive OS) is a retrograde and ill-conceived step.

  5. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 9:22AM  

    Christ, this is a bad idea!

    My mobo on my current PC failed this year and after replacing it I was forced to format and re-install Windows.

    So if I was using Vista, when I want to upgrade, I'll have to throw away my legitimate licensed copy and buy another one?

    Thats madness(!)

  6. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 9:31AM  

    Can someone from the Vista team reply to this, just in case i'm getting hysterical over nothing???

  7. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 11:48AM  

    "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the "licensed device,"

    Could someone from the product team tell us exactly what the above quote means? I most certainly will need to tranfer the license to a new device more than once. If I am not allowed to do this, I will not waste my money on an operating system I can't use in a couple of years.

    I'm sure the pirates you are trying to stop will have no problem finding a way around this limitation, while the rest of us get burned.

  8. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 11:58AM  

    Billy Gates gone wild.  I think a lot of people will turn their backs on Vista and use XP till it dies.  Even if MS will stop supporting XP, the community will still try to make some support for it and hate Vista at the same time.  Also, as usual, the hacker community will hack it anyway; there is no program in the world that was not hacked.  So with first few month of Vista release some hacker dude will make it free for people :)  It always happened and will always happen, no matter how strict MS security is.  Billy read peoples' comments, try to understand them, make MS as people friendly!  Make it cost at most $150 for Vista and a lot of people will most likely BUY Vista, not steal it.  Think before you act and stop being greedy!

  9. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 12:07PM  

    Microsoft must be getting licensing advice from the Recording Industry and Hollyweird.  I don't understand why the prices of these items are not just made affordable.  Things sell when they are affordable.  Make it an offer no one can refuse.  vladdilla, you are right on the money, $150, and everyone upgrades.

  10. Duane
    Posted on: October 13, 2006 at 12:35PM  

    I must agree with some of the earlier posters here. I'm not as concerned with the initial price as I am with not being able to upgrade my hardware as often as I like or need to. This is a deal breaker for me. I'll stay with XP Pro til the retail upgrade terms are more favorable.  

Trackbacks

  1. Posted by: TechBlog on October 11, 2006 at 4:19PM

    Bad news, procrastinators. Microsoft has shut the door on downloads for Windows Vista Release Candidate 2, according to the Windows Vista Team Blog: As you've probably already surmised, downloads of Windows Vista RC2 for the Customer Preview Program (CPP)

  2. Posted by: Robert Burke's Weblog on October 12, 2006 at 6:15AM

    Windows Vista RC2 (build 5744) was available internally late last week, and I'm writing to you from it

  3. Posted by: Someone Else on October 15, 2006 at 1:55PM

    This has got to be a mistake. (Why do I seem to say that a lot recently when reviewing an action taken