Closure of RC2, Feedback Handling in the New York Times, and Licensing Information for Windows

As you've probably already surmised, downloads of Windows Vista RC2 for the Customer Preview Program (CPP) have now closed and the links are no longer active.  We were bowled over by your response to RC2 -- in fact, we hit our download target (200K+) within 72 hours of propping the files!  This is an incredible response.

Special thanks go out to everyone who participated in the CPP by downloading and installing this new build, and please keep the feedback coming -- it makes a huge difference.

If you want another take on how your feedback helps and how the team tracks it, check out this story in the tech section of the New York Times.  (The story also has a good photo of the Life Cycle team -- that’s Sven Hallauer, Director of the Life Cycle team, in the black t-shirt, second from the left.  For more from Sven on the process of getting builds out to the public and what RC2 is all about, check out this podcast).

The amount of information coming out of the Windows Team between now and business availability in November is going to be daunting, but we’re really excited about Windows Vista and we know you are, too, so we’ll do our best to give you as much detail as soon and as often as we can.

On that note, today MS.com published the retail license terms for Windows Vista; you can find them here.  Two notable changes between Windows Vista license terms and those for Windows XP are: 1) failure of a validation check results in the loss of access to specific features (this is the SPP news you’ve likely been reading about this past week); and 2) an increase in our warranty period from 90 days to 1 year, which brings Windows in line with most other Microsoft products.


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  1. Posted on: January 31, 2007 at 12:06PM  

    Hey "Nick White",thx for share

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  2. Rog
    Posted on: August 19, 2007 at 10:16PM  

    Hi Nick,

    I'm not sure if you're still reading this thread or not

    (http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2006/10/10/RC2_2C00_-the-New-York-Times-and-License-Information-for-Windows.aspx),

    but here's a legitimate situation that is making me feel really upset with Vista activation. After gaining some experience installing a copy of Vista Ultimate on my desktop (that was hell initially - I had to reinstall it something like six times - but now it's rock solid six months later), I decided not to activate my laptop's copy until I got the drivers and crashing issues sorted out. This brings up another issue with WGA and activation. I shouldn't need to waste an activation to get WGA updates to troubleshoot a hardware driver problem on a clean OS install only to have the OS get messed up again and again until I figure out what's causing the problem.

    I thought I had finally reached a happy stable stage with my laptop, but just two days ago, a new issue arose, and now the machine will not shut down, restart, or even log off; it will only hibernate. Argh! I now have a big project due this week, and my laptop's Vista said that I needed to activate it. So I did... just to keep it working this week and delay my troubleshooting until I can afford time to do so. The second problem occurred last night when I tried to fix the aforementioned shut down issues by using MS System Restore Tool to go back to an earlier point in time when I thought everything was working properly. When I did this, I was shocked to find out that it had also deactivated my Windows license in the process. Though it makes sense, deactivating in this manner should not be possible! I'm going to hazard a guess and say that this deactivation was not mirrored on your activation server and has counted as one of my installations on your end in Redmond. I'm going to further assume that it cannot be undone. Now I need to reactivate Vista again just so that I can make it through this week on my project, and then I'm probably going to need to use another activation (if I even can) when I inevitably have to reformat / reinstall Vista again. This is not right, and is definitely not fair to the end users. Incidentally, a friend of mine who just bought a brand-new HP laptop had the exact same problem with logging off as mine after installing the latest round of windows updates. She's really angry with Microsoft and Vista now and is telling everyone she knows. Not really that big a deal were it not for the fact that her father will inevitably hear about it and he's the CEO of a major multinational corporation with thousands of computers still on XP.

    There needs to be a way Microsoft can leave some trace of activation on the computer that does not get erased with a system restore. Whatever happened to CPU serial numbers and BIOS-based GUIDs? Legitimate customers affected by these activation type problems would more than likely consent to be "tracked" this way. Lord knows, I would gladly trade this minor privacy issue for no activation problems and for not having to call Microsoft to explain why I need to activate Windows again on the same machine. In addition, there should be a way for my now deactivated system to check your activation server (as soon as it goes onto the Internet) and realize that my copy has already been activated and registered and is completely legitimate. Symantec's Norton Internet Security has this capability...surely Microsoft can figure out how to do this too. Maybe through certificates, or an installed program license management center (like Symantec's) where users could log in be positively identified in the real world via an optional premium version of Windows Live Passport with their ID backed by a credit card.

    I've loved Microsoft's products since the early DOS days, and have recommended them to my customers for years, but I have to say this activation thing is really annoying and Apple is really making a good case to switch over (I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm thinking of getting a MacBook Pro and putting XP Pro on it). Please let us know if MS is doing anything about these issues.

    Thanks,

    Roger

    cc: Ryan Storgaard

  3. awj
    Posted on: October 23, 2007 at 8:51AM  

    Microsoft needs to allow de-activation of Vista, Adobe can do it so why not Microsoft?

    I work in the MS Channel and we get so many licenses for development and testing. To carry out testing we re-install machines to a clean OS regularily, we have X dev/test licenses for one product but currenlty although we have no machines installed using the software are we can not install a copy as all our test licenses are already "in use". The problem is none of them are but they have been for short periods of time during testing afterwards, the machine is formatted and they are tested with another version of OS etc. How are we supposed to deal with this phone MS each time we re-install??

  4. Posted on: March 13, 2009 at 7:09AM  

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  1. Posted by: TechBlog on October 11, 2006 at 4:19PM

    Bad news, procrastinators. Microsoft has shut the door on downloads for Windows Vista Release Candidate 2, according to the Windows Vista Team Blog: As you've probably already surmised, downloads of Windows Vista RC2 for the Customer Preview Program (CPP)

  2. Posted by: Robert Burke's Weblog on October 12, 2006 at 6:15AM

    Windows Vista RC2 (build 5744) was available internally late last week, and I'm writing to you from it

  3. Posted by: Someone Else on October 15, 2006 at 1:55PM

    This has got to be a mistake. (Why do I seem to say that a lot recently when reviewing an action taken