Avoid the Apple Tax – Cash in on the value of Windows

With the ailing global economy, I am looking at ways I get better value for my money. One way I can do this if I need to replace a computer is by avoiding the “Apple Tax.”

Microsoft sponsored a new whitepaper (PDF) from Roger Kay of Endpoint Technologies Associates which takes a look at the tax from a tech analyst’s viewpoint. His paper shows the “Apple Tax” is the combination of what people pay up front when purchasing a Mac and what people pay over the life of their computer – the hidden tax.

Roger looked into both aspects in his whitepaper, and has discovered some interesting findings around the “hidden tax” of owning a Mac – using the scenario of a hypothetical family of 4 and their costs over a five year period. Knowing that Tax Day is just around the corner here in the US (April 15), I decided to have a little fun with his findings by building a mock up tax form using Roger’s numbers that show the whopping difference this family would get purchasing Windows PCs over Macs: $3,367.

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I know taxes are calculated annually but I thought it would be more interesting to look in terms of total savings Roger outlined in choosing 2 Windows PCs over 2 Macs in that 5 year period.

So what could you do with that $3,367 savings by avoiding the Apple Tax?

If you want to get some exercise you could get bikes for the whole family, and still have money left over (All via Performance Bicycles)!

  • Schwinn Sid Coasting Bike ($499.99)
  • Schwinn Nancy Ladies Coasting Bike ($499.99)
  • Performance Girls 24” Kids Mountain Bike ($299.99)
  • 2008 Mongoose Amasa Comp Mountain Bike ($679.99)
  • 4 helmets: 2 Bell Ukon Sport Helmets @ $34.99, 1 Giro Women’s Kaya Helmet @ $39.99, and 1 Ascent Cruise Youth Helmet @ $29.99)

Take the family out for a night at the movies - 117 times (4 tickets @ $7.18 = $28.72)!

Make your home green, and save even more money!

It is human nature to focus on the up-front price. The coverage around our Laptop Hunters ads jumps right to that (“PCs are cheaper”). The harder thing to capture is the overall cost and the VALUE. Roger’s paper does a great job illustrating this. Cost is getting something cheaper. Value is a function of getting more of what you want, regardless of what you spend. And you’re a lot more likely to find that with a Windows PC.

Shoppers rarely do a lifetime cost of ownership calculation for a new computer (even though that’s the real cost and makes the PC advantage even greater) but they intrinsically calculate the value for a new computer. That’s what we see in the market every day and what we see in the choices made by Lauren and Giampaolo as they each selected a PC that met their own unique criteria (features and budget). They wanted the right value for them. And that’s the beauty of Windows PCs – the diversity of choice and options that exist so that people can find what’s right for their own needs, not someone else’s. You’re never forced to buy more than you need or give up features you want like Blu-ray, Mobile Broadband, Firewire, and more. And, Windows PCs offer this across a broadest range of price points and performance from low-end netbook PCs to high-end gaming rigs.

But let’s limit ourselves to the narrow scenario where Apple does have offerings. We get questions about this all the time so we asked Roger to take a look at the comparison chart that we’ve used before to outline features, specs and price points across Macs and PCs. Part of his conclusion is, “Holding the price constant and examining specifications only serves to exaggerate the better deals on the Windows side.”

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Note: The chart splits the Mac and PC laptops in to 3 categories: Value for basic models, Mainstream for average models, and Performance for high end models to illustrate options where Apple has machines. Of course the full spectrum of PC laptops is much broader.

What do you think about the concept of value? And what would you do with a $3,367 “Apple Tax Return”? Sound off in comments. In a few weeks I’ll showcase what people say they would do with their “Apple Tax Return” in a follow-up blog post.

UPDATED 4/13

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  1. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 1:35PM  

    I own a widows system and 2 macs. There are some things that only windows can do well: I use mine for a home theatre PC, and Quicken on Mac is absolutely terrible. But everything that I can do on either, I choose the mac. Because it just works. I look at buying a mac like preventative maintenance. Yes, you may pay a little more up front, but think of all the time you save by having everything just work.

    It took me years to convince my parents to switch away from their PC, which they got because it was cheap. All they do is email, print letters, and surf the web. When they found out how much easier it was to do that on the mac, they told me they were kicking themselves that they didn't switch sooner.

  2. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 3:14PM  

    @Anengineer: Maybe if you buy a Dell... but I really haven't had much issues with my Sony Vaio!

  3. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 3:21PM  

    Time Tax vs. Apple Tax:

    for myself always do a "time tax" calculation: "Install 30$ software (30min) and done"  vs. "Install free software (15min) and get it working (3h)". If my hour is worth 20$, the math is easy.

    Time is something Apple enthusiasts buy with the product - they just want to save time for their day-to-day work. This also means that they want the relevant stuff out of the box. And relevant stuff isn't just "send/receive e-mail" these days anymore. Contact organizer are useful (personal and business), but the "Contacts" ist just half-baked. It's incomplete, doesn't have an API which 3rd party apps could use. Get inspired how Adium and Mail are using the underlying OS in perferct harmony, and how your iPhone is synced.

    But of course, you cannot put "everything" into the box - and there are people (EU) who don't want Microsoft to do so. So, there will be installations - but they provided the same experience for the last 15 years (although they dropped the blue gradient in the background): anarchy. Most applications do the installation their own way - no standard pattern (like DragAndDrop under OSX). This means for me (since I gave myself away as a PC-tongue) there be no week without being called and asked "Is it ok to check option X if I install Y?".

    Now if you say that Windows strength is "options", then I should have the option to not have options! Windows 7 installation requires the fewest clicks of all time, I like it. So force the existence of the iWillBeHappy-Option in installers. Don't ask users if they won't be able to give response. Encourage them to choose the no-pain path. Options are great for Administrators, Businesses, but not for the casual PC user. XBox/GfW Marketplace, Mobile AppStore, why didn't Windows get the one-click install yet?

    If I'd sum up all that time, I might find out why I am not a millionaire yet. If you save money on the wrong end, it will

    P.S. Another time-eating monster for me, fellow-students, and developers: ssh, bash, etc. OSX has all the love now where I (as a Windows user) have to spend multiple hours on getting those things to run on my PC. And since Linux refuses to run on my PC or my Laptop I consider buying a MacBook (although I hope that one won't break one week after the 1y-guarantee is over like my iPod touch did).

  4. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 5:29PM  

    A previous poster hit the nail on the head about Microsoft's "Time Tax."

    I had to use a PC at work just twice in long career. Fortunately, I no longer have to be subjected to the constant troubleshooting that's necessary to use and maintain Windows systems for my own work. Unfortunately, I still am besieged by Windows-based friends, family members and small business clients who always are calling for help with interface problems such as navigation or opening and saving files or e-mail browser incompatibilities, dysfunctional video chat hardware, virus problems and data recovery and software re-installation issues, just to name a few. I thought I had selected Macs to avoid issues like this, yet I still must endure them. Bad Karma, I guess.

    Over the years, I've converted a few hundred business users to Macs. Finally, this year, I was able to convert my sister, her son and daughter in Albuquerque from PCs to Macs so that they can have a couple of malware-safe computers in the house, reliable video chats and music editing for the kids (who each have iPods). For now, her hubby and another son remain Windows users. And my brother in Atlanta has vowed to switch his small business to the Mac when his Dell laptop needs to be replaced (in the next year or so). He became sold on Apple after using a new iPhone 3G for the past six months, but to be honest, he had lost faith in Microsoft a couple of years ago (when all the security and malware problems were revealed), and in Dell (when their cost-cutting hardware design and manufacturing went to hell in a handbag and their tech support went to India).

    Since that time, Microsoft's systematic use of coordinated "talking points" (from the CEO down to company bloggers and PR spokespeople) really comes across as forced and disingenuous. The latest "Apple Tax" mumbo jumbo is just another in a long line of deceptive headlines conceived to draw attention away from the PR problems created by the lingering XP security issues and the more recent Windows Vista fiasco.

    Talking points, nor Windows 7 (which seems to just be the next Vista service pack update being rushed into production with a new product name), are not likely to change these perceptions, or this switching trend.

    The day Microsoft introduces a new, completely redesigned, modern OS and your ads and bloggers start talking about really useful Windows Vista features, industry standards (instead of proprietary features) and things like ease-of-use instead of besmirching the competition, is the day reasonable people will begin to take a second look at your desktop OS products once again.

    I don't expect this to happen any time soon.

    In the interim, the only "Apple Tax" I'm aware of is the money you lose when you first purchase a Windows-based PC and then elect to replace it with a more reliable computer -- a Mac with OS X.

  5. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 5:41PM  

    How old is this report? It contains discontinued items and grossly inaccurate product details.

    MobileMe does not cost $150, as listed in the report. MobileMe is $79 for first year, $99/yr thereafter (unless you buy from amazon, where it is $68.49).

    Why would you buy 2GB of DDR2 ram@800Mhz for a mac? The current ones all use DDR3@1066Mhz.

    iLife costs $79, not $99.

    A blu-ray drive (external) *specifically* for mac costs $124.99, not $300.

    And many of the PC products listed have been discontinued.

  6. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 5:45PM  

    Ah, the good old price argument... Be careful because linux is the ultimate price win, it's a moot point to try and "save money" with Windows... no? One would have to be seriously blunt to buy that argument.

    I think the problem with Windows is the product: you guys need to get a seriously good OS out there.  I'm a long time Windows developer that is now switching to the Mac because I don't want to deal anymore with Windows (especially Vista). The price is a factor, but it all depends on how good the product is. So far the Mac wins hands down. I'm still learning a lot, can't say I'm as familiar with the Mac as with Windows, but a few months should take care of that.

    I can't help but smile at how much you try to travesty all this by heavily insisting that the Mac is all about the "cool" factor and branding... It is has nothing to do with reality in my opinion. I have 2 Macs now, and I wasn't seeing them as "cool" really, until you guys started pounding it a few weeks ago. It is remarkably stable when compared to Windows. Many things are done quite differently, many make a lot of sense, many are a step down from Windows.

    You are completely off mark with the "cool" thing. It's all about the product, and its stability. Windows needs to get leaner, faster and above all stable. I have decided that I will not stand for BSODs anymore. A BSOD in this day and age is completely inadmissible. I used to get one every 2 weeks on average under Vista. Unacceptable. Also, having to enter a "product key" every time I install an OS is getting on my nerves (linux and OS X are getting this right: they don't ask for one). No amount of discounting can't heal that nasty problem - it would be a burden even if Windows was free! I have lost 2 paid Windows licenses because I've lost the CDs they came on - that's a hidden MS tax right there!

    In this economy, I'm thinking linux makes most sense: it's free and open. The Mac also has several advantages in this bad economy:

    - no hassles (no "product keys" to keep around, it just works, saving me time thus money)

    - resale value is much higher

    - the sleep function on desktops is implemented correctly, unlike on Windows where the sleep function is useless (I never could use it, as the machine would irremediable fail on wake up): I'm saving on the electricity bill with the Macs

  7. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 6:03PM  

    I also agree with the MS "time tax" some commenters pointed out. I have spent a lot of time troubleshooting Windows installations, and still do. There are plenty of things I just give up on and live with them. Right now (XP at work, Vista at home):

    - my work machine completely hangs for 60 seconds every time I delete a large folder

    - Outlook at work freezes randomly for 30 seconds when I go from one folder to another

    - COD4 at home takes 5 minutes (!) to start

    - my home machine gets a BSOD on average every 2 weeks

    - home machine goes into a BSOD when I plug in a Microsoft Habu USB gaming mouse

    and the list of petty annoyances goes on and on and on...

    So far, no annoyances with the 2 Macs I recently purchased (but I had one for less than 4 months... time will tell - my wife's Mac has 2+ years and no annoyances, but she is not a developer so...).

  8. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 7:59PM  

    God damn this is going to come back and bite MS in the ass pretty soon - what a classic piece of bad PR this is. It may sound like something bitter from a Mac user - but as a user of both PC's and Mac's - how the hell they came up with those costs yet ignored things like Office for Windows, Quicken for Windows - yet added them to the Mac prices? MobileMe for $700+ yeah, but its optional! A blu-Ray drive from sony for $300 when you can get one for the Mac from LG for $110. iLife for $99 - yet find any decent likened software for the PC and you'll be paying a hell of a lot more! Heck they even use a HP pc that even HP don't advertise anymore. They don't do a consumer mac comparison either, just a Mac Pro??? Well I class myself as pretty professional when it comes to computers, but hell not even I use one of them! Memory upgrade here for 4GB cost $50. Applecare - with no comparison to the prices of sending your PC in for repair, the assumption that people will only go for a Apple router which albeit is far better than most others is more expensive - when the one they show for the PC works perfectly fine with the Macs.

    Yes we all know Mac's cost more than PCs. But if they really want to actually make these PR stunts work, they need to actually show what the PC does better, or is that starting to be the struggle here?

    I could go on - classic. At least the press (and not just mac loving press) are laying into this one so easily now. Someone fire the PR guy there and put the focus on what WINDOWS does better - you have 98% of the market, heck even Vista is a decent OS in my mind, or are they too embarrassed to show the actual software anymore these days.

    The big mistake you have made here though is you say that "Roger" came to all these conclusions - yet he has since stated himself the costs and ideas were given to him by Microsoft. Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it.

  9. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 8:06PM  

    Also forgot to mention it might be worth posting up a proper update Tax form as it seems very out of date - not just with discontinued products - but the pricing of things like mobile me (which is $250 cheaper than you state) and ilife are completely wrong...wouldn't want people to think you are lying to the public.

  10. Posted on: April 09, 2009 at 8:21PM  

    Just noticed, that aside from some typos I dropped a word in the last sentence. "If you save money on the wrong end, it will" +backfire. Just like my cheap PSU chose to melt all my components one year ago - just because it didn't have some overpowering protection.

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